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Old Sep 22nd 2012 | 2:24 pm
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Help needed. Upped my iPhone this morning and now cannot connect to home wifi - any suggestions? Chhers
 
Old Sep 22nd 2012 | 3:33 pm
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Help needed. Upped my iPhone this morning and now cannot connect to home wifi - any suggestions? Chhers
Dump it (it's a fashion accessory) and get a real phone like a Samsung Galaxy 3

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lol. my iphone4 contract ends early next year and thinking of galaxy s3
 
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Dump it (it's a fashion accessory) and get a real phone like a Samsung Galaxy 3
ah .... you beat me to it
 
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Get an iphone 5. It shits on the S3
 
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Get an iphone 5. It shits on the S3
not according to nearly all independent reviews
 
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not according to nearly all independent reviews
Well its faster and thinner than any other smart phone and came out much better in a drop test between it and the S3. Plus, I'm not believing that you've read nearly all independent reviews.
 
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Well its faster and thinner than any other smart phone and came out much better in a drop test between it and the S3. Plus, I'm not believing that you've read nearly all independent reviews.
Well, actually, the thickness is 7.6mm compared to 8.6mm - so not a lot in it.

And in the benchmarks of the proper version of the SIII, it beats the iphone 5
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/09/22/...in-benchmarks/

As far as drop tests are concerned, you really need to test in cases - although the iphone 5 has done away with the stupidity of the glass back - although adding in the stupidity of a metal back so it can't have NFC. Eventually it will have to go plastic to incorporate NFC.

And, of course, the SIII is much cheaper than the iphone 5

In Android terms the iphone 5 would be a high end budget to mid range phone. Just look at what the Huawei G330 specs are, compared to the iphone 5 - and it is very much a cheap budget phone.

http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_ascend_g330-4966.php
 
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Well, actually, the thickness is 7.6mm compared to 8.6mm - so not a lot in it.

And in the benchmarks of the proper version of the SIII, it beats the iphone 5
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/09/22/...in-benchmarks/

As far as drop tests are concerned, you really need to test in cases - although the iphone 5 has done away with the stupidity of the glass back - although adding in the stupidity of a metal back so it can't have NFC. Eventually it will have to go plastic to incorporate NFC.

And, of course, the SIII is much cheaper than the iphone 5

In Android terms the iphone 5 would be a high end budget to mid range phone. Just look at what the Huawei G330 specs are, compared to the iphone 5 - and it is very much a cheap budget phone.

http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_ascend_g330-4966.php
Specs are irrelevant. Whats important is performance and experience.

The S3 does not out perform the iPhone 5 on its currently available operating system.

IOS 6 is a far more stable and snappier OS and apps are always going to be faster on it than Android.

The iPhone is a far better looking device than the seriously ugly S3.

Why is NFC important when it's really not used anywhere?

Also, that 1mm is significant when you actually hold the iPhone 5. Having used is for a weekend now, it's most definitely the best phone I've used.

Samsung are desperate to pack their devices with stuff as thats what they're seeing as what people want from market research. The reason Apple are so successfull is because they do zero market research. Just like the famous Henry Ford saying, if he asked people what they wanted, they'd say a faster horse.

Also, why do cases have to be considered in the drop test?
 
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Specs are irrelevant. Whats important is performance and experience.
You are of course entitled to your personal opinion, but most people who aren't apple fanbois are tending to say the opposite. Ios6 is a bit of an old hat OS, with many features that they haven't copied from Android yet. You are right that OS and apps are much 'closer to the metal' than Android, which allows them to make the best of the hardware they do have. However the quid pro quo is they trap themselves into poor design decisions that a better designed software structure (such and Android) avoids. The reason they have only just crept up to a 4" screen is because of that lack of design - which is also why you don't have 720p or 4.5"+ screens.

Personally I'd say the SIII even beats the iphone5 for looks - although I tend to buy on capabilities and price rather than pretties.

NFC being important? Well, haven't you seen the NFC at the supermarket checkout, or on Myki? Won't be long before the interoperability catches up and you need it.

The iphone 5 maybe the best iphone you've used, but it certainly isn't the best phone out there (by an obvious margin).

To top it off, it is a walled garden of restrictions and lack of choice. To those that don't feel the chains it maybe OK - but I value having the freedom to pick and tailor to my precise needs - shiny Top Shop suit vs bespoke made to measure.
 
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Just to clear something up here, I'm not a fanboi of anyone. I don't have to have the latest and greatest and I don't orgasm over one company doing better than another. That stuff is silly.

I was in the market for a new phone and hung on for the iphone 5 to come out as I have invested in IOS apps and like the IOS experience.

Yes, I'm entitled to my opinion but it is not an opinion that Apple have engineered a device/OS combination that utilises hardware much more effectively than any Android phone.

The 720P on the S3 is also irrelevant as the iphone as a higher pixel density for the screen size that actually allows one hand use. Thats an important phone feature if you ask me.

What are the poor design decisions of the iPhone 5?

NFC is just another feature that people might need in the future and assume that it's important to have now for the rush of companies/devices in a hurry to incorporate it. The reason its not so popular right now is because the iphone doesnt have it, simple. As soon as the Apple include it, companies will be all over it. But who needs it? I am as keen to have it as much as my Paypass on my debit card. I would prefer to not have it at all as to avoid any security concerns.
 
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I had a look at the IP5 at the Apple store on Friday. It's a beautiful phone, but after using the Note and SG3, you realise that it really is a fashion accessory. Apparently there are major issues with its mapping software and Gmail and Facebook integration. Also, black versions are being shipped with scratches and scuff marks on them - not good when Apple are promoting the IP5 as the best thing since stripey toothpaste.

Stick to a proper phone maker like Samsung.

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Yes, I'm entitled to my opinion but it is not an opinion that Apple have engineered a device/OS combination that utilises hardware much more effectively than any Android phone.

The 720P on the S3 is also irrelevant as the iphone as a higher pixel density for the screen size that actually allows one hand use. Thats an important phone feature if you ask me.

What are the poor design decisions of the iPhone 5?
Well one, the one behind this area, is fixed screen resolutions/aspect ratios. Because they built down to the metal they have been stuck with either pixel doubling, or the latest fix, adding in a bit longer on one axis, and having black bars on apps.

Do it properly, with resolutions and aspect ratio independence, and you can have any resolution/aspect ratio - and apps which are designed to take advantage of it.

And because those chose badly with the iphone 1 - that base resolution was not one that was either widescreen or a submultiple of HD resolutions. That's why it matters, if you want to watch video content on it - you are having to rescale and resample to turn HD video files into something that fits, never a good idea.

While the abstraction of Android costs some small amount the efficiency compared to coding to the metal - it does yield significant advantages as time goes by. The VM, the screen abstraction, the true multi-threading, multi-core - doing it right, all help in the long term.
 
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Well one, the one behind this area, is fixed screen resolutions/aspect ratios. Because they built down to the metal they have been stuck with either pixel doubling, or the latest fix, adding in a bit longer on one axis, and having black bars on apps.

Do it properly, with resolutions and aspect ratio independence, and you can have any resolution/aspect ratio - and apps which are designed to take advantage of it.

And because those chose badly with the iphone 1 - that base resolution was not one that was either widescreen or a submultiple of HD resolutions. That's why it matters, if you want to watch video content on it - you are having to rescale and resample to turn HD video files into something that fits, never a good idea.

While the abstraction of Android costs some small amount the efficiency compared to coding to the metal - it does yield significant advantages as time goes by. The VM, the screen abstraction, the true multi-threading, multi-core - doing it right, all help in the long term.
You are absolutely splitting hairs now. Developers can choose to upgrade their apps or not to. The aspect ratio worked just fine. Plus, it's a bit irrelevant when many movies are super wide, which is not ideal for any current smart phone.

Anyway, a phone is not simply for watching movies.In fact, thats probably what I'd do the least on it.

If it's important to you and you see movie file type and DRM being an issue, the iphone can actually be just as flexible as any, other than for removable storage. I'd like to know just why people would need more than 64gb in their pocket at all times. Your entire music/movie library? Come on.
 


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