Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
#76
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Re: Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
I have various responses to it now - if I plan ahead then I ensure the top of my bag has underwear, tampons etc visible....that puts them off double-quick especially is they are spotty youths! Alternatively I just upend the bag in front of them saying I prefer to do that than have them rummage through it. As soon as I start to empty it they change their minds fast.
I have a particular hate of this practice having been ordered (not even asked) to remove my jacket and jumper once in a queue in BiLo. Because I had a temperature and was shivering and thus wearing a jacket they were convinced i was hiding food.
Personal opinion - Aussies put up with it cos they are a nosey lot in general. They like to discuss the ins and outs of everyone's personal business at the checkout, and I think its just one step on from that. I have even had bag searchers comment on the contents of my bag when I've upended it - "Oh thats a strange thing to have in your bag, why do you carry that....."
I have a particular hate of this practice having been ordered (not even asked) to remove my jacket and jumper once in a queue in BiLo. Because I had a temperature and was shivering and thus wearing a jacket they were convinced i was hiding food.
Personal opinion - Aussies put up with it cos they are a nosey lot in general. They like to discuss the ins and outs of everyone's personal business at the checkout, and I think its just one step on from that. I have even had bag searchers comment on the contents of my bag when I've upended it - "Oh thats a strange thing to have in your bag, why do you carry that....."
Last edited by Pollyana; Feb 23rd 2009 at 11:41 am.
#77
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Re: Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
FFS who really wants to pinch stuff from Kmart or target?
#78
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Re: Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
Drug addicts and steal-to-order shoplifters usually. They nick things like razor blades, perfume, CDs and DVDs because they're very easy to sell on and retain a relatively high resale value.
#79
Re: Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
Not sure which is worse:
Casual check of your trolley in a supermarket or...
See where the guns are pointing...
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...11_468x353.jpg
Casual check of your trolley in a supermarket or...
See where the guns are pointing...
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...11_468x353.jpg
#80
Re: Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
I have to say, I hated having my bag searched when I was in Australia. It felt like an invasion of privacy and made me feel uncomfortable. I wouldn't dream of stealing anything from a shop
It's never happened to me in any other country and I don't understand why it happens in Aus.
It's never happened to me in any other country and I don't understand why it happens in Aus.
#81
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Re: Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
I never bought anything but they were always asking as I looked like I may have money (new car/house) etc and they were (and still are) very good friends of mine. I also saw what people used to order and wondered how they managed to steal some of it.
Addiction really is the most dehabilitating process, regardless of initial morals, background or the age in which it grabs you - all of the addicts I know ended up exactly the same with the same resultant personality. Its shell-like.
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#82
Re: Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
sorry i cant cut and paste in this discussion too many things made me giggle, absoloutely shocked at what they do, cant wait to get there i gonna up end my bag and then say "dont look at me its prob the hubby"
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#83
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Re: Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
They quite often catch shoplifters without brains, for putting stolen goods in the bags, hence they check them
We caught a few ourselves, and seemingly respectable people too, which surprised me at first.
Most Australians put up with it because it is the law, and because most people are happy to prove they have done nothing wrong. It takes but a few seconds.
The check-out till people can do nothing very little about it though, and most criminals know this, and will refuse to allow their bags to be searched.
This indicates their guilt to most people watching.
We caught a few ourselves, and seemingly respectable people too, which surprised me at first.
Most Australians put up with it because it is the law, and because most people are happy to prove they have done nothing wrong. It takes but a few seconds.
The check-out till people can do nothing very little about it though, and most criminals know this, and will refuse to allow their bags to be searched.
This indicates their guilt to most people watching.
The only way to get through to them is dont go in shops that invade your privacy, send them an email to let them know, if the shops loose custom they will soon change.
#84
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Re: Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
nonsense, the act of looking in your bag helps keep the costs down since stores dont have to use over the top security devices which drive costs up.
There will never be enough resentment of the practise to make any shop change it's policy.
There will never be enough resentment of the practise to make any shop change it's policy.
#85
Re: Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
Has anyone ever been challenged over contents? I know I never have they generally don't really look just quickly peer in and wave you on!
#86
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Re: Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
The only store which regularly checks me is Kmart - when I'm walking out without buying anything.
What I don't understand is that surely the best way to shoplift is to nick something of high value then Q up at the checkout to buy something cheap - then you won't get checked?
What I don't understand is that surely the best way to shoplift is to nick something of high value then Q up at the checkout to buy something cheap - then you won't get checked?
#87
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Re: Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
Why not? The principle is the same. It's just the size of the crime that's different. Where do you draw the line?
#88
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Re: Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
Time for you to come on. Checking for shoplifters does not imply "So it's guilty until proven innocent in Australia is it ?!" as you parochially put it. It's just checking for shoplifters. It implies no more collective guilt than putting security tags on all items in a shop. It's just says that there are shoplifters in this world not that everyone is a shoplifter. Just like security checks says that there are terrorists in this world not that we are all terrorists.
Last edited by MartinLuther; Feb 23rd 2009 at 10:03 pm.
#89
Re: Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
So it's guilty until proven innocent in Australia is it ?!
#90
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Re: Invasion of privacy - why do Ozzies put up with it?
I am not sure how even the most pro-australian people can condone this practice