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MenAtWork Jul 9th 2007 6:53 am

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Hi guys,

I'm having a new pool installed in and thought that the process might interest anyone thinking of doing the same.

I'm going to load up a couple of photos of the first couple of days and if theres any interest i'll keep it going.

Steve

hitchcock71 Jul 9th 2007 6:57 am

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how much is it costing???

MenAtWork Jul 9th 2007 8:22 am

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Originally Posted by hitchcock71 (Post 5032122)
how much is it costing???

The average quote seems to be about $1000 per Linear Metre for a concrete pool. so a 10 x 4 Metre pool would be approx (10 +4 + 10 + 4) * $1000 or $28000 + GST

There is extra on top for any landscaping, heating, electrical connections, possible plumbing if any drains need relocating.

Access may make a difference to the price as the bigger the digger they can get in the quicker it is to dig the pool.

Steve

bcworld Jul 9th 2007 10:11 am

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Palmwoods? That's Sunshine Coast right so I'm guessing you're allowed to fill with town water?

If it was Brisbane you'd have to factor another few $k to bring water in in a tanker to fill the pool.

raven Jul 9th 2007 11:52 am

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Originally Posted by MenAtWork (Post 5032419)
The average quote seems to be about $1000 per Linear Metre for a concrete pool. so a 10 x 4 Metre pool would be approx (10 +4 + 10 + 4) * $1000 or $28000 + GST

There is extra on top for any landscaping, heating, electrical connections, possible plumbing if any drains need relocating.

Access may make a difference to the price as the bigger the digger they can get in the quicker it is to dig the pool.

Steve

Iam now at the stage where the concrete is done and waiting to cure.Priced at 24000 for 22 lm but by the time i have paid for pipes to be moved landscaping etc probably be nearer 28000. You have to remember that all you get is the pool and everything else is extras

MenAtWork Jul 9th 2007 6:15 pm

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End Of Day 2

The hole is finished and they've started boarding out for the concrete

We had a very minor plumbing incident which was fixed in about 5 minutes.

The bloke with the digger had some ballet dancing to do when he got right to the end as he was under the eaves and had the house on one side and the fence on the other.

Steve

MenAtWork Jul 10th 2007 5:47 pm

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Day 3

All of the Steel is in place ready for the concrete to be sprayed tomorrow.

The pipework for the Solar and Pump are ready too although most of that is out of shot.

Steve

smiths Jul 10th 2007 7:16 pm

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Hi menatwork

Keep posting the pics as we're thinking of having a pool put in so it'll be interesting to see how you're getting on

MenAtWork Jul 12th 2007 11:09 am

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The Pool was sprayed with concrete yesterday and it's starting to look like a pool instead of a big hole.

I was pretty impressed with the guys working on it there was string lines and levels everywhere to ensure perfectly straight lines.

The surface is deliberately left with a rough texture to allow the final pool surface plenty to key onto.

it'll be a few days before much else happens the boards will come off some time next week. The top of the pool will be tiled in 2 weeks. I think the Landscape chap will be here next week getting a few things done.

I'll post anything interesting that crops up in the meantime.

hitchcock71 Jul 12th 2007 8:28 pm

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maw

really enjoying your picks did not realise so much work went in to building a pool:blink:

yes i know dumb woman:o:o:o

quercus Jul 13th 2007 9:45 am

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Interesting project. Expensive though.

Does adding a pool pay for itself by adding value to the property?

MenAtWork Jul 13th 2007 10:52 am

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Originally Posted by quercus (Post 5051980)
Interesting project. Expensive though.

Does adding a pool pay for itself by adding value to the property?

I think it will certainly add value but maybe not the whole amount.

I'll try and find out when it's finished.

It's certainly a LOT cheaper to buy a bit inland, get a decent sized block and pay for a pool installing than it is to live within a couple of minutes of the beach. (We are about 15 min inland)

MenAtWork Jul 13th 2007 10:58 am

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Originally Posted by hitchcock71 (Post 5048711)
maw

really enjoying your picks did not realise so much work went in to building a pool:blink:

yes i know dumb woman:o:o:o

Neither did I, a lot of work has gone into tying it into the existing house - things are measured out to the milimeter so that everything lines up from the patio to the pool. You'll see what I mean when we get further down the project. I'm not sure you get that from a lot of Pool installers.

bcworld Jul 13th 2007 11:42 am

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Originally Posted by quercus (Post 5051980)
Interesting project. Expensive though.

Does adding a pool pay for itself by adding value to the property?

I think in the past the answer to that would certainly be yes.......I have a pool and it was certainly a selling point for me when I viewed the house on a 35C+ day in February!

These days though, with ever increasing water restrictions (in Brisbane anyway) I sometimes think the pool will be a liability if I come to sell the house - level 6 water restrictions are just around the corner and I have no idea what that will hold for us.

Its not entirely fair.....i think there is a perception that pool owners are extreme water users but I haven't put town water in my pool for well over a year....and its full to the brim. My downpipe diverter does a good job of keeping it topped up even with the meagre rains we get these days. Our recent rates notice showed we were using just 160 litres a day for a 2 person house...well below that level 5 target of 280.

quercus Jul 14th 2007 5:23 am

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Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 5052241)
I think in the past the answer to that would certainly be yes.......I have a pool and it was certainly a selling point for me when I viewed the house on a 35C+ day in February!

These days though, with ever increasing water restrictions (in Brisbane anyway) I sometimes think the pool will be a liability if I come to sell the house - level 6 water restrictions are just around the corner and I have no idea what that will hold for us.

Its not entirely fair.....i think there is a perception that pool owners are extreme water users but I haven't put town water in my pool for well over a year....and its full to the brim. My downpipe diverter does a good job of keeping it topped up even with the meagre rains we get these days. Our recent rates notice showed we were using just 160 litres a day for a 2 person house...well below that level 5 target of 280.

Good to know how little water you need to keep it topped. Is it high maintenance with chemicals etc?

quercus Jul 14th 2007 5:24 am

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Originally Posted by MenAtWork (Post 5052122)
I think it will certainly add value but maybe not the whole amount.

I'll try and find out when it's finished.

It's certainly a LOT cheaper to buy a bit inland, get a decent sized block and pay for a pool installing than it is to live within a couple of minutes of the beach. (We are about 15 min inland)

Thats a good point. Worth me bearing in mind as I shall be house hunting before long.

hitchcock71 Jul 14th 2007 7:02 am

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Originally Posted by quercus (Post 5054449)
Good to know how little water you need to keep it topped. Is it high maintenance with chemicals etc?

i was going to ask that how much is the annual up keep and monthly costs involved ???

MenAtWork Jul 14th 2007 12:10 pm

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I'm not sure about cost of chemicals etc.

According to theelectrician the pump will cost about 14 cents a day on a standard electrical circuit and about 8 cents a day to run on something called Tariff 33 ( you have to have a separate electrical meter and power is only available 7am-5pm or thereabouts) I think its a bit like economy7. It costs about $500 for the meter to be installed. Our pool is 12M x 3.5M and we have a 32" sand filter.

bcworld Jul 14th 2007 1:19 pm

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Originally Posted by hitchcock71 (Post 5054704)
i was going to ask that how much is the annual up keep and monthly costs involved ???

...well the pump runs about 8 hrs a day, not sure how much that costs but the leccie bills dont seem excessive. My biggest problem is keeping the chemical balance right....haven't quite mastered that even after a year! Things will go great for a while then without warning the thing will just turn green over a couple of days!

My pool seems to consume a lot of acid so i buy that fairly often, but its cheap. A salt water pool requires very little in the way of chemical input so I'd certainly put my chemical costs at less than $150 a year then maybe another $50-$100 to replace bit and pieces of the creepy crawly, leaf rake etc.

Actually I will say I had a cracked pipe last year which required digging up the concrete around the pool so that set me back $800.

I've never had it done but I guess its also a good idea to have the pump, chlorinator and filter serviced on a regular basis too.

zig_zag Jul 15th 2007 4:29 am

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Originally Posted by MenAtWork (Post 5032112)
Hi guys,

I'm having a new pool installed in and thought that the process might interest anyone thinking of doing the same.

I'm going to load up a couple of photos of the first couple of days and if theres any interest i'll keep it going.

Steve

Looks great! :thumbsup: we have installed an above ground pool which we have put below ground, it looks smashing! we have done all the work our selves apart from the hole.:ohmy: Its been hard work but very satisfying its cost us about 10 grand and that's with new pool fencing and second hand pathers which we are doing now I wouldn't recommend this to anyone but we are a crazy couple who will have a go at anything its all part of the fun and saves us heaps of cash too:thumbsup:

MenAtWork Jul 16th 2007 9:31 pm

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The Shuttering is off and the the steps to the patio are being laid. The patio steps have to be poured separately from the pool so that a expantion join can be inserted between the two concrete masses.

The pipes are mostly in place now for the electrical and solar. (you may be able to make them out on the picture near the palms at the side of the deck)

quercus Jul 16th 2007 10:06 pm

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It's progressing fast!

The solar is for heating is it? Will it be from a panel on the roof? Do you use solar for the house? Q

biggy Jul 16th 2007 10:06 pm

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Originally Posted by MenAtWork (Post 5066193)
The Shuttering is off and the the steps to the patio are being laid. The patio steps have to be poured separately from the pool so that a expantion join can be inserted between the two concrete masses.

The pipes are mostly in place now for the electrical and solar. (you may be able to make them out on the picture near the palms at the side of the deck)

Lookin Great....I will get ma swimmers on lol

MenAtWork Jul 17th 2007 11:33 am

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Originally Posted by quercus (Post 5066307)
It's progressing fast!

The solar is for heating is it? Will it be from a panel on the roof? Do you use solar for the house? Q


We are just using solar water heating for the pool it's basically a series of black tubes that sit on the roof with a temperature sensor in the pool. If it's not warm enough water is directed through the tubes during the day to pick up heat from the sun. If the pool is too warm water is directed through the solar panel during the night to radiate heat away.

We are not using these guys but their website has a pretty good explanation of how it all works http://www.zane.com.au/html/home.htm

quercus Jul 17th 2007 9:49 pm

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Smart, innit!

MenAtWork Aug 27th 2007 3:49 pm

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Not a lot has happened lately, partly down to the lovely sunshine coast weather we have had lately and partly just waiting for the concrete to cure. It was about 700mm deep on monday from the rain.

The next steps include some tiling to do around the pool, rendering to the retaining wall, getting the fencing up, pebbling and filling with water.

The solar heating is in place which you might see in the photos.

MenAtWork

biggy Aug 27th 2007 4:43 pm

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Originally Posted by MenAtWork (Post 5242641)
Not a lot has happened lately, partly down to the lovely sunshine coast weather we have had lately and partly just waiting for the concrete to cure. It was about 700mm deep on monday from the rain.

The next steps include some tiling to do around the pool, rendering to the retaining wall, getting the fencing up, pebbling and filling with water.

The solar heating is in place which you might see in the photos.

MenAtWork

looking fab mate :D

The OH Aug 27th 2007 4:44 pm

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Originally Posted by MenAtWork (Post 5242641)
Not a lot has happened lately, partly down to the lovely sunshine coast weather we have had lately and partly just waiting for the concrete to cure. It was about 700mm deep on monday from the rain.

The next steps include some tiling to do around the pool, rendering to the retaining wall, getting the fencing up, pebbling and filling with water.

The solar heating is in place which you might see in the photos.

MenAtWork

I'm getting quotes for fibreglass pools. What are your reason[s] for having a concrete pool?

MenAtWork Aug 27th 2007 5:03 pm

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Hi OH,

The Pool is out of the ground by 8-18" on one side. You cant do that with fibreglass.

We could have raised / lowered the ground to accomodate a fibre glass pool but we wanted to tie the design into the house so that the pool was at the level of the bedroom and the steps lined up with the patio. The Pool is 12M and there aren't many fibreglass choices to accomodate that size.

If we could have had what we wanted in fibreglass we would have done as its cheaper and comes with some pretty good guarantees.

The OH Aug 27th 2007 7:00 pm

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Originally Posted by MenAtWork (Post 5242819)
Hi OH,

The Pool is out of the ground by 8-18" on one side. You cant do that with fibreglass.

We could have raised / lowered the ground to accomodate a fibre glass pool but we wanted to tie the design into the house so that the pool was at the level of the bedroom and the steps lined up with the patio. The Pool is 12M and there aren't many fibreglass choices to accomodate that size.

If we could have had what we wanted in fibreglass we would have done as its cheaper and comes with some pretty good guarantees.

Thank you, your pool does tie in very well with the design of your house.
When do you expect to dip your toes in the water?:thumbup:

What type of pool fencing have you decided on? Have you looked at the glass ones?

MenAtWork Aug 27th 2007 7:24 pm

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Hi OH

We are having glass pool fencing across the patio and the deck infront of the bedrooom. aross the lawn and down the side of the house it will be Aluminium. I'll post a piccy with the Aluminium pool fencing in place in the next coulple of days.

It should be finished by the end of next week if all goes to plan. I might wait a couple of days for the Solar to do it's job before I dive in but i'll get my toes wet asap.

MenAtWork

charb Aug 27th 2007 7:34 pm

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Originally Posted by MenAtWork (Post 5243164)
Hi OH

We are having glass pool fencing across the patio and the deck infront of the bedrooom. aross the lawn and down the side of the house it will be Aluminium. I'll post a piccy with the Aluminium pool fencing in place in the next coulple of days.

It should be finished by the end of next week if all goes to plan. I might wait a couple of days for the Solar to do it's job before I dive in but i'll get my toes wet asap.

MenAtWork

Looks good MAW, it's great to see the progress.

So, when's the pool party....??? ;-)

flossie22 Aug 27th 2007 8:00 pm

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It sounds great!!!!!! I am sooooooo jealous!!!!

I am STILL in the UK where I summer has been crap. Having your own pool sounds wonderful. I was under the impression that new builds tec were not allowed to have pools coz of the water shortage-is that true????

MenAtWork Aug 27th 2007 8:11 pm

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Hi Floss,

I think it depends where you live but here on the sunshine coast we are not that short of water. We had 400mm of rain last week and our local dam is pretty full (80% + )

Some places that are short are insisting that if you have a pool you full your pool with water trucked in and that you have a rain water tank to collect top up water. I'm not sure what its like outside of Queensland.

flossie22 Aug 27th 2007 8:45 pm

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did u build your home or buy it?

Thanx 4 the info-sounds funny having water trucked in!!! after the crappy summer we have had I'm sure they have some spare water up in the midlands-lol:rofl:
I have visited surfers....do the sunshine & gold coast have a tropical climate?

MenAtWork Aug 27th 2007 9:27 pm

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Originally Posted by flossie22 (Post 5243435)
did u build your home or buy it?

Thanx 4 the info-sounds funny having water trucked in!!! after the crappy summer we have had I'm sure they have some spare water up in the midlands-lol:rofl:
I have visited surfers....do the sunshine & gold coast have a tropical climate?

We bought the house. We planned on buying a house with a pool but really liked this house so thought we'd build our own.

I think the sunshine coast is officially subtropical in winter most days have been pretty good with most days having a maximum around 20. We've only been here since march so I can't tel you about summer just yet.The gold coast has been much drier than the sunshine coast lately.

Some local areas had 1000mm of rain in 2 days last week, so there is probably a bit spare round here.

flossie22 Aug 27th 2007 9:32 pm

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Missing the UK yet? Good luck in ur new home-and new life !!:D

Geelong Gent Aug 27th 2007 9:54 pm

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Originally Posted by MenAtWork (Post 5242819)
Hi OH,
The Pool is 12M and there aren't many fibreglass choices to accomodate that size.

If we could have had what we wanted in fibreglass we would have done as its cheaper and comes with some pretty good guarantees.

Nice pool MenAtWork. I also like the way you have integrated it with the house.

I have received a quote for $22K to build a 12x4 m concrete pool 2 metres deep. This compares to a fibreglass pool at $32K.

The $22K consists of:
$4K Excavation
$2K Concrete
$5K Concrete forms
$5K Tiles (materials but excludes grout)
$6K Cost of laying the tiles (labour)

They have not come back to me on a more detailed breakdown of the $32K yet to compare like with like but its the same size but with a shallow end of 1.35 metres. The costs of solar heating etc are excluded from the $32K but are according to the brochure "negotiable" so must be where they gain the most profit?.

We may also be getting a better rate because the excavator will be doing our basement garage and the concrete forms and concrete supplier is doing the main house/s.

Tiawamutu Sep 28th 2007 4:54 am

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Have you any pics of the finished pool now? :)

Tigeresswhite Sep 28th 2007 9:59 am

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MAW,
Can't wait to see the finished project. It has given us food for thought when we buy in Perth. OH really wants a pool. Thanks for all of the info:D


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