I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Jan 13th 2007 | 10:48 pm
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Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Also those very same potential migranmts who want to leave the UK often end up returning from Australia to the place they wanted to leave - check out the moving back to the UK forum!!
Jan 13th 2007 | 10:50 pm
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Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
i live in the midlands
i have a job which i'm payed above the national average
i have a fairly big semi-detatched house
we have a new car every 2 years
i have a foreign holiday every year and several weekend breaks in the Uk
we have 2 young kids who are doing great at school
I want to move to Aussie ,if for no other reason, than we want a change.
I want to experience something totally different.I dont want to live in the same place for the whole of my life.
At least when i'm old and knackered i can say i gave it a go.
thats pretty much my motivation for moving.Am i mad ??
i have a job which i'm payed above the national average
i have a fairly big semi-detatched house
we have a new car every 2 years
i have a foreign holiday every year and several weekend breaks in the Uk
we have 2 young kids who are doing great at school
I want to move to Aussie ,if for no other reason, than we want a change.
I want to experience something totally different.I dont want to live in the same place for the whole of my life.
At least when i'm old and knackered i can say i gave it a go.
thats pretty much my motivation for moving.Am i mad ??
"I can't believe that I gave up a fairly big house, a new car every two years etc etc etc"!
Jan 13th 2007 | 10:51 pm
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You are kidding right? I takes me ages to cross Sydney, in fact it takes so long It's one of the reasons I stay away from the place. Everywhere here is just so much further away from everything that even if trafic is less (whick it isn't in the cities) you more than make up any time saving by distance traveled. Driving in Melbourne was mad and time consuming too, as was Brisbane although not as bad as the other two.
Jan 13th 2007 | 10:54 pm
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Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
And wait until you get stuck in the traffic lights of Perth.
Or stuck on a highway at a stupidly low speed limit (and then break the speed limit and get nicked like I did on the very last day of double demerit points)
Or stuck on a highway at a stupidly low speed limit (and then break the speed limit and get nicked like I did on the very last day of double demerit points)
Jan 13th 2007 | 11:03 pm
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God knows what these people think they are coming to with all their reasons for leaving the uk are identical to the ones why people leave aussie .You only have to look at australia to see it has bigger cities than any in the uk apart from london ,so it only makes sense it has the same problems and for those coming here to perth youll be lucky to get into Balga,koondoola,girrawheen ,for under 400000 dollars and they are crime ridden ,drug ridden ,state housing areas with their associated problems ie shootings ,car thefts ,its a lot of money to live in a dump .
Jan 13th 2007 | 11:04 pm
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Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
There is a degree of truth in that in 'attainment', Australia is sort of 1(minus) - narrowly missing a straight '1' only due to geograhical circumstance and isolation - I wouldn't talk about it in terms of 'where' matters.
Having said that, when you compare Australia to real 2nd and 3rd world countries, it is definitely 1st and if not so, then it makes up for it with 'effort'. (
) How many 2nd and 3rd world countries have the likes of Perth, Sydney, Melbourne etc.I'd also go as far as to say that in some real remote areas the infrastructure would cause problems of a 3rd world nature but even this would be averaged out by well off landowners who provide the industry there.
Jan 13th 2007 | 11:07 pm
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Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Not prepared to pay 200k GBP to live in a dump.
Jan 13th 2007 | 11:08 pm
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Do you think I asked for some thief to come to my home with bolt cutters in the middle of the night? Did I want him stealing from my 10 year old child only a few feet from me while I slept? Better question...Have you been the victim of a crime lately? If not, then I invite you to be. For at least 3 nights after every time I heard so much as a leaf rattle outside my window I was awake scared silly that this time they are coming in to see what we have inside the house the house. I now sleep with a cricket bat beside the bed and one eye open. I never asked to be a victim of crime and I don't think it's all in my mind, either.
Jan 13th 2007 | 11:09 pm
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It's slack arsed attitudes to work, difficulty in thinking out of the box, regulations for farting and incompetence which rermind me of the third world rather than the infrastructure.
Jan 13th 2007 | 11:12 pm
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Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Regarding my post some good points were made.
I like the U.K, do not hate it and think parts of it are as nice as anywhere in the world. I am not angry or bitter.
My reason for wanting to leave the U.K was never made on crime or immigration.I have been a victim of crime and I do not fear it either.
If you read my post I said it was the first time I really thought about the crime that way in nearly 2 years so the crime is not my main reason for wanting to leave the U.K.
I run every other day whatever the weather and regularly come back soaked. Today is Sunday and we are taking the kids to the lake but we have been stuck in for pretty much the last 2 weekends which hacks me off. One of the main reasons I want to leave is the weather,remember last years very,very long winter.
My brother has lived in Australia for years and I know from him that youngsters cannot get on the housing ladder. He has also been addicted to hard drugs in the past. I personally think that burglaries are worse in Oz as it does not seem to be so bad in the U.K anymore.No one turns your house over for a dvd player anymore like they did in the 80's.
The fact it takes forever to go anywhere in the U.K also hacks me off.
Yes there are lots of nationalities in Australia but I still think it is a long way behind the U.K regarding a lot of social issues.I still think the U.K is going the "wrong" way where as Australia has a lot of catching up to do.
BTW if the U.K is not that bad why do polls constantly show a huge percentage of people wanting to leave the U.K, are they all wrong?
I like the U.K, do not hate it and think parts of it are as nice as anywhere in the world. I am not angry or bitter.
My reason for wanting to leave the U.K was never made on crime or immigration.I have been a victim of crime and I do not fear it either.
If you read my post I said it was the first time I really thought about the crime that way in nearly 2 years so the crime is not my main reason for wanting to leave the U.K.
I run every other day whatever the weather and regularly come back soaked. Today is Sunday and we are taking the kids to the lake but we have been stuck in for pretty much the last 2 weekends which hacks me off. One of the main reasons I want to leave is the weather,remember last years very,very long winter.
My brother has lived in Australia for years and I know from him that youngsters cannot get on the housing ladder. He has also been addicted to hard drugs in the past. I personally think that burglaries are worse in Oz as it does not seem to be so bad in the U.K anymore.No one turns your house over for a dvd player anymore like they did in the 80's.
The fact it takes forever to go anywhere in the U.K also hacks me off.
Yes there are lots of nationalities in Australia but I still think it is a long way behind the U.K regarding a lot of social issues.I still think the U.K is going the "wrong" way where as Australia has a lot of catching up to do.
BTW if the U.K is not that bad why do polls constantly show a huge percentage of people wanting to leave the U.K, are they all wrong?
I look at britain through different eyes when i go back now and i see the oppurtunities the brits are too blind to see and i see the beauty of the place that i once didnt see and the brits dont change they are living in a bouyant economy and still they reckon its crap and its better elsewhere ,god knows what they will be like when it all goes pear shaped .
If you want to talk about taking forever to get anywhere ,try a weeks drive at 12 hours a day to get to sydney from perth in someof the most inhospitable and remote and life threatening [as in heat etc]country on the earth .Where even a short break here in WA is a days drive away to get anywhere and god forbid if you want to fly its cheaper to fly to the uk at times .I dont think you have really experienced the ''it takes forever to get somewhere syndrome yet ''.Sitting in a traffic jam for 2 hours on the A34 will seem like paredise compared to the mind numbing experience of driving in outback australia to get somewhere thats got sweet FA aprt from the best pie shop in the world and goldfish that swim upside down .
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Jan 13th 2007 | 11:17 pm
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Jan 13th 2007 | 11:24 pm
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Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Telstra just could not get our business contracts sorted out - we think they may now have done it - 12 months after we signed up.
Our software company has free support but they employ kids who just don't know what they are talking about.
Builders and other tradesmen who promise to come out and don't show (having said that our shopfitters were very good). Aircon engineers who charged us $400 for a service and left the unit unworkable.
Jan 13th 2007 | 11:28 pm
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Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
I agree ,my post may have seemed harsh and by and large the people of KGB are good people ,but the area has always had problems and now its getting bloody expensive and for a future migrant they may look on it as an area thay can afford ,with a closness to the city it has it attractions but then so is Redfern in sydney and that has real issues ,i just dont want to see any one ripped off and ending up in a worse position than they maybe in the UK .
