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scottishcelts Jun 14th 2009 11:45 pm

Re: How snobbish are you?
 

Originally Posted by framac67 (Post 7666081)
Ye wid if ah slept in it.;):wub:

:D:eek:

BadgeIsBack Jun 14th 2009 11:46 pm

Re: How snobbish are you?
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 7666032)
We get the same about the suburb we live in and the school we choose to send our children to. The difference is that we aren't mortgaged up to our eyeballs and pay higher council rates so we can say we live in "XYZ" suburb. All those snobs across Marmion Ave in the next suburb have no problem coming across to use the shopping centre or train station but think those of us who live here are lower than dog shit they stepped in.

Funny how people obsess about money when it comes to snobbery...

For us, where we live was an option which gives us options which allows us to live how we want to. With like-minded friends. Money does not even come in to it, other than the median house price. And there are cheaper houses to come by. There are other places where we would not want to live, because that is not how we want to do it!

The people we know with the most literal access to wealth and education drive the oldest cars.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Jun 14th 2009 11:59 pm

Re: How snobbish are you?
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 7665849)
He would be entitled to certain legal and civil privileges purely by virtue of his upper class birthright; privileges automatically denied to the panel beater by virtue of his working class birthright.

What legal privilege would that be then?. Are you say that there is one written law for the upper classes and one for the rest?

iamthecreaturefromuranus Jun 15th 2009 12:03 am

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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 7666207)
The people we know with the most literal access to wealth and education drive the oldest cars.

Probably because they have never been in a position where they had to decide that day if they wanted to eat or freeze as they could only afford either food or heating, but not both. If you have constant access to money its easy to be blase about it.

jsvk Jun 15th 2009 12:03 am

Re: How snobbish are you?
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 7666032)
We get the same about the suburb we live in and the school we choose to send our children to. The difference is that we aren't mortgaged up to our eyeballs and pay higher council rates so we can say we live in "XYZ" suburb. All those snobs across Marmion Ave in the next suburb have no problem coming across to use the shopping centre or train station but think those of us who live here are lower than dog shit they stepped in.

Dorothy,

I remember when they first built that shopping centre,( lived in the other lower than dog shit suburb lol) the snobs across Marmion Ave tried to claim it as their own...Ocean keys Mindarie :rofl::rofl:

Vash the Stampede Jun 15th 2009 12:11 am

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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 7666151)
Remember that the aristocracy or peerage etc is a different matter to the upper class, or, perhaps the highest ranks of the professionals, or establishment, or intelligentsia, or business. The establishment is an interesting one as many of these most privileged people will not have a title - but may end up earning one.

I tend to include the aristocracy in the "upper class" bracket, but you make a good point and I can see that there is a case for distinguishing between the two. After all, landed gentry were considered upper class, despite not being aristocrats.

This became less relevant with the advent of the industrial revolution, which marked an unprecedent change in social attitudes. By the 20th Century it was socially acceptable for a member of the aristocracy to have a profession, whereas previously it would have been considered an embarrassment (P G Wodehouse often satirised this prejudice).

Dickens provided a wealth of invaluable social commentary on Britain's class system, some of which is still relevant today. For a modern analysis, see Kate Fox's Watching the English: the Hidden Rules of English Behaviour.

The one advantage that Britain's class system has over systems is that it still offers some measure of social mobility. In other class-segregated countries (particularly India) this is virtually impossible.

Vash the Stampede Jun 15th 2009 12:25 am

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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 7666251)
What legal privilege would that be then?

Participation in the House of Lords, inheritance of a title, and the right to a coat of arms - to name just three examples.

Of course, in former years the privileges were even more extensive; immunity to prosecution, exemption from taxation, viceroy powers in provincial courts, etc. Today's aristocrats are far more limited.


Are you say that there is one written law for the upper classes and one for the rest?
No, I am saying that there are certain legal and civil privileges available only to the upper classes and aristocracy. QED.

BadgeIsBack Jun 15th 2009 12:28 am

Re: How snobbish are you?
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 7666251)
What legal privilege would that be then?. Are you say that there is one written law for the upper classes and one for the rest?

It might be the privilege to sit in the House of Lords etc. Is that a legal priviledge? Legal yes, privilege yes - both? There are lots of things which are accorded by law I suppose. There are people who hold warrants and commissions, appointed by the crown (etc) who loosely have some sort of entitlement or privilege even if the detail has sort of been forgotten etc.. or in practise is not evoked as such. Like a chief copper or an employee of the Royal Household (etc), certain positions in the Armed Forces. eg. An officer is addressed so because he or she represents the Queen - even though privately some would laugh about that - in practise he or she is a manager and is operating under military law. A warrant officer also has a warrant etc.


Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 7666263)
Probably because they have never been in a position where they had to decide that day if they wanted to eat or freeze as they could only afford either food or heating, but not both. If you have constant access to money its easy to be blase about it.

True - but these people could buy more expensive cars if they wanted to. But it is not important to them, they just do not aspire to it. Lots of people aspire to having expensive cars, when they could be aspiring to educate their children or eat healthfully! It is clearly an individual thing.

Bearing in mind this is a site for expatriate Brits, in Australia, it would be interesting to see whether there is any correlation between class, snobbery, given the opinions of some of the posters (likers of Australia, haters of Australia - you know the drill).

In general there is a very anti-elite, anti-establishment attitude on this forum, even from the most privileged posters, I would suggest!

sj oldfield Jun 15th 2009 12:29 am

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Thats me...................one hell of a snob!!!

plantpot Jun 15th 2009 9:22 am

Re: How snobbish are you?
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 7666302)

Really interesting book....

seang Jun 15th 2009 9:40 am

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Vash the Stampede Jun 15th 2009 10:02 am

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Originally Posted by plantpot (Post 7667724)
Really interesting book....

It's an absolute belter. I have found it very useful; I had no idea how important class distinctions were to the English before I came here.

:)

Possums Jun 15th 2009 10:59 am

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Originally Posted by seang (Post 7667764)

:thumbup: still a brilliant sketch

plantpot Jun 15th 2009 11:20 am

Re: How snobbish are you?
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 7667824)
It's an absolute belter. I have found it very useful; I had no idea how important class distinctions were to the English before I came here.

:)

It helped my sister in law who is South American, she could never understand the nuances, and now thinks we are even more weird with all our social codes...

asher Jun 15th 2009 12:04 pm

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I judge a house by it's layout, an area by convenience ie wlking distance to shops and railway and people by their attitudes :thumbsup:


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