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Hi,

Long time lurker, first time poster. I’m just wondering how others have coped, because me and my family have reached the end of our tether here. We came out to Oz in 2006. We really thought this would be paradise as we had read so many positive comments about it, and watched just about every tv program about Oz we could. We felt really informed, and yes we did see some negative comments on here and we made a solemn pact NOT to let ourselves become Negative Neddies. Our tale of woe goes like this.

Sold our house in Tunbridge Wells, we were not mortgage free so had to pay the bank back first, this meant that we brought about $80,000 with us. Now I had read a lot about how cheap the houses were and how low the cost of living was in Oz so I thought this would be enough.

We settled in Brisbane (I have a daughter and a son) and bought a house. This is pretty much where our troubles started. I had a lot of trouble getting a job, despite being told in the UK that there was a skills shortage ( I was an accountant for the Inland Revenue in the UK). We thought we did the right thing by buying a locally made car (a Holden) and turned out to be the biggest heap of junk I have ever had the misfortune to drive. So far it’s cost us $8,000 in repairs and the ‘mechanics’ (monkeys would be a better description) still can’t fix it.

My daughter got a part a time job at Coles, at least someone was working and we were still optimistic about our chances of making it here. But I got knock after knock back. I was either over qualified, under qualified or did not have ‘Australian experience’. Why do I need Australian experience when I am a fully qualified accountant born, raised and educated in the country that gave Australia its accounting practices?

My son Morgan hates it here, he gets teased at school for his ‘posh’ accent. I have escorted him to school a few times and have to say that the natives could learn some lessons in ‘posh’ themselves! So things are very bumpy. Just after Xmas my Jemima (my daughter) came home very upset as one of the local boys had suggested something rather rude to her. She is an innocent teenager and I was shocked when she repeated what was said. No wonder there are so many single mothers here.

It has just been one thing after another. I have a full time job now but to be honest I find the level of so called educated accountants here very lacking, and its all I can do to hold my tongue. Their slapdash attitude to work beggars belief. On top of that the pay is very very poor.

All of these things of course could happen in the UK, well some of them at least. But I think the boredom and cultural void that exists here does not help the situation. I rarely go as I find their boorish behaviour too much to bear a lot of the time.

I’m really struggling to fathom how anyone would stay here unless they are quite lazy and accept second best in their lives a matter of everyday occurrence, or is a complete uneducated hooligan. We are ready to prepare for home and for that I am thankful, but it has cost us a lot of money.
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Hi,

Long time lurker, first time poster. I’m just wondering how others have coped, because me and my family have reached the end of our tether here. We came out to Oz in 2006. We really thought this would be paradise as we had read so many positive comments about it, and watched just about every tv program about Oz we could. We felt really informed, and yes we did see some negative comments on here and we made a solemn pact NOT to let ourselves become Negative Neddies. Our tale of woe goes like this.

Sold our house in Tunbridge Wells, we were not mortgage free so had to pay the bank back first, this meant that we brought about $80,000 with us. Now I had read a lot about how cheap the houses were and how low the cost of living was in Oz so I thought this would be enough.

We settled in Brisbane (I have a daughter and a son) and bought a house. This is pretty much where our troubles started. I had a lot of trouble getting a job, despite being told in the UK that there was a skills shortage ( I was an accountant for the Inland Revenue in the UK). We thought we did the right thing by buying a locally made car (a Holden) and turned out to be the biggest heap of junk I have ever had the misfortune to drive. So far it’s cost us $8,000 in repairs and the ‘mechanics’ (monkeys would be a better description) still can’t fix it.

My daughter got a part a time job at Coles, at least someone was working and we were still optimistic about our chances of making it here. But I got knock after knock back. I was either over qualified, under qualified or did not have ‘Australian experience’. Why do I need Australian experience when I am a fully qualified accountant born, raised and educated in the country that gave Australia its accounting practices?

My son Morgan hates it here, he gets teased at school for his ‘posh’ accent. I have escorted him to school a few times and have to say that the natives could learn some lessons in ‘posh’ themselves! So things are very bumpy. Just after Xmas my Jemima (my daughter) came home very upset as one of the local boys had suggested something rather rude to her. She is an innocent teenager and I was shocked when she repeated what was said. No wonder there are so many single mothers here.

It has just been one thing after another. I have a full time job now but to be honest I find the level of so called educated accountants here very lacking, and its all I can do to hold my tongue. Their slapdash attitude to work beggars belief. On top of that the pay is very very poor.

All of these things of course could happen in the UK, well some of them at least. But I think the boredom and cultural void that exists here does not help the situation. I rarely go as I find their boorish behaviour too much to bear a lot of the time.

I’m really struggling to fathom how anyone would stay here unless they are quite lazy and accept second best in their lives a matter of everyday occurrence, or is a complete uneducated hooligan. We are ready to prepare for home and for that I am thankful, but it has cost us a lot of money.
Australia is not for everyone. Looks like it's not for you.
Put it down to experience and move on.

PS Agree about Holdens. They are shite. I'd only drive one if it was free.

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I cope because I have a great life - with more balance and choice. I have more time to do the things I really want to do rather than have to do others because there is no choice.

Looking at the events that could happen anywhere. Buying a bomb, a little boy not quite the gentleman. (Where are you exactly, I won't be going there).

2 of my best mates have Phds. There are a fair few 'educated people' amongst our friends.

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This one I have to watch, whoever you really are.
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This one I have to watch, whoever you really are.
Mmmm. 'Disgusted' of Brisbane doesn't quite ring true.

Jemima and Morgan for a start - surely not..
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Mmmm. 'Disgusted' of Brisbane doesn't quite ring true.

Jemima and Morgan for a start - surely not..
My favourite bit is:

Just after Xmas my Jemima (my daughter) came home very upset as one of the local boys had suggested something rather rude to her. She is an innocent teenager and I was shocked when she repeated what was said.
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Hi,

Long time lurker, first time poster. I’m just wondering how others have coped, because me and my family have reached the end of our tether here. We came out to Oz in 2006. We really thought this would be paradise as we had read so many positive comments about it, and watched just about every tv program about Oz we could. We felt really informed, and yes we did see some negative comments on here and we made a solemn pact NOT to let ourselves become Negative Neddies. Our tale of woe goes like this.

Sold our house in Tunbridge Wells, we were not mortgage free so had to pay the bank back first, this meant that we brought about $80,000 with us. Now I had read a lot about how cheap the houses were and how low the cost of living was in Oz so I thought this would be enough.

We settled in Brisbane (I have a daughter and a son) and bought a house. This is pretty much where our troubles started. I had a lot of trouble getting a job, despite being told in the UK that there was a skills shortage ( I was an accountant for the Inland Revenue in the UK). We thought we did the right thing by buying a locally made car (a Holden) and turned out to be the biggest heap of junk I have ever had the misfortune to drive. So far it’s cost us $8,000 in repairs and the ‘mechanics’ (monkeys would be a better description) still can’t fix it.

My daughter got a part a time job at Coles, at least someone was working and we were still optimistic about our chances of making it here. But I got knock after knock back. I was either over qualified, under qualified or did not have ‘Australian experience’. Why do I need Australian experience when I am a fully qualified accountant born, raised and educated in the country that gave Australia its accounting practices?

My son Morgan hates it here, he gets teased at school for his ‘posh’ accent. I have escorted him to school a few times and have to say that the natives could learn some lessons in ‘posh’ themselves! So things are very bumpy. Just after Xmas my Jemima (my daughter) came home very upset as one of the local boys had suggested something rather rude to her. She is an innocent teenager and I was shocked when she repeated what was said. No wonder there are so many single mothers here.

It has just been one thing after another. I have a full time job now but to be honest I find the level of so called educated accountants here very lacking, and its all I can do to hold my tongue. Their slapdash attitude to work beggars belief. On top of that the pay is very very poor.

All of these things of course could happen in the UK, well some of them at least. But I think the boredom and cultural void that exists here does not help the situation. I rarely go as I find their boorish behaviour too much to bear a lot of the time.

I’m really struggling to fathom how anyone would stay here unless they are quite lazy and accept second best in their lives a matter of everyday occurrence, or is a complete uneducated hooligan. We are ready to prepare for home and for that I am thankful, but it has cost us a lot of money.
whilst I sympathise with your plight, there are a lot of people on BE that like it here and are far from the type of person you describe.

Hope you find happiness back in England.
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Originally Posted by Disgusted
Hi,

Long time lurker, first time poster. I’m just wondering how others have coped, because me and my family have reached the end of our tether here. We came out to Oz in 2006. We really thought this would be paradise as we had read so many positive comments about it, and watched just about every tv program about Oz we could. We felt really informed, and yes we did see some negative comments on here and we made a solemn pact NOT to let ourselves become Negative Neddies. Our tale of woe goes like this.

Sold our house in Tunbridge Wells, we were not mortgage free so had to pay the bank back first, this meant that we brought about $80,000 with us. Now I had read a lot about how cheap the houses were and how low the cost of living was in Oz so I thought this would be enough.

We settled in Brisbane (I have a daughter and a son) and bought a house. This is pretty much where our troubles started. I had a lot of trouble getting a job, despite being told in the UK that there was a skills shortage ( I was an accountant for the Inland Revenue in the UK). We thought we did the right thing by buying a locally made car (a Holden) and turned out to be the biggest heap of junk I have ever had the misfortune to drive. So far it’s cost us $8,000 in repairs and the ‘mechanics’ (monkeys would be a better description) still can’t fix it.

My daughter got a part a time job at Coles, at least someone was working and we were still optimistic about our chances of making it here. But I got knock after knock back. I was either over qualified, under qualified or did not have ‘Australian experience’. Why do I need Australian experience when I am a fully qualified accountant born, raised and educated in the country that gave Australia its accounting practices?

My son Morgan hates it here, he gets teased at school for his ‘posh’ accent. I have escorted him to school a few times and have to say that the natives could learn some lessons in ‘posh’ themselves! So things are very bumpy. Just after Xmas my Jemima (my daughter) came home very upset as one of the local boys had suggested something rather rude to her. She is an innocent teenager and I was shocked when she repeated what was said. No wonder there are so many single mothers here.

It has just been one thing after another. I have a full time job now but to be honest I find the level of so called educated accountants here very lacking, and its all I can do to hold my tongue. Their slapdash attitude to work beggars belief. On top of that the pay is very very poor.

All of these things of course could happen in the UK, well some of them at least. But I think the boredom and cultural void that exists here does not help the situation. I rarely go as I find their boorish behaviour too much to bear a lot of the time.

I’m really struggling to fathom how anyone would stay here unless they are quite lazy and accept second best in their lives a matter of everyday occurrence, or is a complete uneducated hooligan. We are ready to prepare for home and for that I am thankful, but it has cost us a lot of money.
That is your experience unfortunately but it may surprise you to know that it's not everyones.

I am staying here and I am not lazy, I only accept first class in my life and am very educated thank you very much. My experience is totally at odds to yours but not a lot I can do about that.

All those things you say have happened to you here, can and do happen all the time in the UK (except the ownership of a crappy Holden of course) you just were not aware of it because you were in your home country and knew stuff you don't know here regarding work. Depending on where you lived, your daughter may or not have come up against nasty comments - most teenage girls are more than capable of making bitchy comments to each other regardless of what country they live in.

Your son would not have been "accused" of being posh where you were in the UK because presumably all his friends sounded the same as him. Had you moved to a totally different area of the UK he would have likely have had the same comment.

I can only suggest you all sit down as a family and decide where you want to be and if it turns out to be the UK then you try and set things in motion to get back.

I'm not sure insulting people you know nothing about is the right way to go to make friends and influence people but whatever rocks your boat.
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Originally Posted by Geordie George
This one I have to watch, whoever you really are.
was thinkin that myself....who's under the bridge
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was thinkin that myself....who's under the bridge
Oh come on guys, don't ruin it, we haven't had a good row with a bridge dweller for ages, play the game, argue back. This place needs a damn good row
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grab some popcorn, kick off the thongs and enjoy the afternoon
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Originally Posted by Disgusted
I’m really struggling to fathom how anyone would stay here unless they are quite lazy and accept second best in their lives a matter of everyday occurrence, or is a complete uneducated hooligan.
Interesting post until the last paragraph. Yet another expat assuming that because things havent worked out for them then the rest of us who are quite happily settled here must be morons.

I agree with Amazulu's comments.
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I’m really struggling to fathom how anyone would stay here unless they are quite lazy and accept second best in their lives a matter of everyday occurrence, or is a complete uneducated hooligan.
I'm pretty lazy and a bit of a hooligan, maybe that's why i Like it here.

Oz is not for everyone - good luck with whatever you choose to do.

Good post though.
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I'm pretty lazy and a bit of a hooligan, maybe that's why i Like it here.

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I just heard a funny noise, I think it was a hammer hitting a nail on the head

I'm not sure how you can describe yourself as "pretty lazy" given you've spent all that time fighting bushfires recently...?!
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I just heard a funny noise, I think it was a hammer hitting a nail on the head

I'm not sure how you can describe yourself as "pretty lazy" given you've spent all that time fighting bushfires recently...?!
Thank you, I'll get my mrs. to read your post. She keeps telling me I'm a lazy bastard.
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