Is he GUILTY ? [discuss]
Feb 12th 2008, 8:16 am
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Re: Is he GUILTY ? [discuss]
if not what is to stop him getting a job. I know I know I will start some debate about people and their right not to work or something but I am sick of being a tax payer and paying for people not working. Yes I agree it is not all black and white but too much of it is happening.
I will sit here now and wait for the backlash.
SORRY FOR GOING OFF TOPIC
I will sit here now and wait for the backlash.
SORRY FOR GOING OFF TOPIC
Perhaps you are not able to see his disability. It could be that he's blind and deaf. Could be that he's mentally ill but deemed fit for trial. Would you hire a paranoid schizophrenic? My brother is one and is on disability since he was about 35. Not because he is incapable of working, but who wants to hire a man who has arguments with inanimate objects? He's perfectly intelligent and knows right from wrong, which I believe is the criteria to be deemed mentally fit to stand trial, but unable to work.
Don't be so quick to judge. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there.
Feb 12th 2008, 8:25 am
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Re: Is he GUILTY ? [discuss]
Perhaps you are not able to see his disability. It could be that he's blind and deaf. Could be that he's mentally ill but deemed fit for trial. Would you hire a paranoid schizophrenic? My brother is one and is on disability since he was about 35. Not because he is incapable of working, but who wants to hire a man who has arguments with inanimate objects? He's perfectly intelligent and knows right from wrong, which I believe is the criteria to be deemed mentally fit to stand trial, but unable to work.
Don't be so quick to judge. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there.
Don't be so quick to judge. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there.
No names mentioned.
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Feb 12th 2008, 8:34 am
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Re: Is he GUILTY ? [discuss]
if not what is to stop him getting a job. I know I know I will start some debate about people and their right not to work or something but I am sick of being a tax payer and paying for people not working. Yes I agree it is not all black and white but too much of it is happening.
but there are lots of "mentally" disabled on benefits who shouldn't be...but now I am really getting off the original topic
Sorry to disagree, but I think there are some people judging whether or not he is disabled based on a photo in the papers. He's not on trial for being disabled, but rather for killing someone.
Feb 12th 2008, 8:37 am
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Re: Is he GUILTY ? [discuss]
Originally Posted by seayork2002
if not what is to stop him getting a job. I know I know I will start some debate about people and their right not to work or something but I am sick of being a tax payer and paying for people not working. Yes I agree it is not all black and white but too much of it is happening.
but there are lots of "mentally" disabled on benefits who shouldn't be...but now I am really getting off the original topic
Sorry to disagree, but I think there are some people judging whether or not he is disabled based on a photo in the papers. He's not on trial for being disabled, but rather for killing someone.
if not what is to stop him getting a job. I know I know I will start some debate about people and their right not to work or something but I am sick of being a tax payer and paying for people not working. Yes I agree it is not all black and white but too much of it is happening.
but there are lots of "mentally" disabled on benefits who shouldn't be...but now I am really getting off the original topic
Sorry to disagree, but I think there are some people judging whether or not he is disabled based on a photo in the papers. He's not on trial for being disabled, but rather for killing someone.
Soapy for executioner.......
Feb 12th 2008, 9:35 am
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Feb 12th 2008, 10:01 am
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Re: Is he GUILTY ? [discuss]
The bloke didnt help someone who was dying. He then carried her dead body and hid it. He blatantly lied to police. He cant be that badly disabled physically or mentally if he managed to do all that ! He tried to cover up her death, being scared doesnt come into it from what ive read it was because he didnt want to miss his daughters graduation. He was calculating enough to think all this through so he can now face the consequences of his actions ....
He should be charged with murder and I bloody well hope he will be !!!
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...9-3102,00.html
He should be charged with murder and I bloody well hope he will be !!!
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...9-3102,00.html
Feb 12th 2008, 10:32 am
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Re: Is he GUILTY ? [discuss]
The bloke didnt help someone who was dying. He then carried her dead body and hid it. He blatantly lied to police. He cant be that badly disabled physically or mentally if he managed to do all that ! He tried to cover up her death, being scared doesnt come into it from what ive read it was because he didnt want to miss his daughters graduation. He was calculating enough to think all this through so he can now face the consequences of his actions ....
He should be charged with murder and I bloody well hope he will be !!!
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...9-3102,00.html
He should be charged with murder and I bloody well hope he will be !!!
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...9-3102,00.html
That's the difficulty. No evidence, no conviction.
Feb 12th 2008, 10:44 am
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Re: Is he GUILTY ? [discuss]
Not exactly correct.
He is being charged from what I gather for murder. ( for which a hung jury has occured on 3 occasions )
Perhaps im incorrect on that, as there seems insufficient information at this time, to ascertain if he is or has been found not guilty of murder.
However, he will certainly be found guilty of something, once the heavier charge has been set aside.
Possibly, concealment, purgory... parking fines, having big ears...
who bloody knows, but seems like the Police or criminal prosecution, have it in for him, and are either supplying the court with fresh evidence each time, or the system in Australia is such that, if not found guilty the first time, you can be tried and tried again.
Wonder if the same principle applies, to a conviction.. so that you may be re evaluated, and perhaps 7th attempt be found not guilty ???
He is being charged from what I gather for murder. ( for which a hung jury has occured on 3 occasions )
Perhaps im incorrect on that, as there seems insufficient information at this time, to ascertain if he is or has been found not guilty of murder.
However, he will certainly be found guilty of something, once the heavier charge has been set aside.
Possibly, concealment, purgory... parking fines, having big ears...
who bloody knows, but seems like the Police or criminal prosecution, have it in for him, and are either supplying the court with fresh evidence each time, or the system in Australia is such that, if not found guilty the first time, you can be tried and tried again.
Wonder if the same principle applies, to a conviction.. so that you may be re evaluated, and perhaps 7th attempt be found not guilty ???
Feb 12th 2008, 11:15 am
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Re: Is he GUILTY ? [discuss]
He said he didn't let the fuzz know because he didn't want to miss his childs graduation or play or whatever the next day. Seriously, who does that? He moved the body. THAT'S why the case is going on for so long. They couldn't get the chalk-outline guy to trace around it. Everyone knows that's the most important part of any murder investigation. You learn that on like, day one of murder investigation school.
Feb 12th 2008, 11:40 am
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Re: Is he GUILTY ? [discuss]
Feb 12th 2008, 11:44 am
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Re: Is he GUILTY ? [discuss]
He said he didn't let the fuzz know because he didn't want to miss his childs graduation or play or whatever the next day. Seriously, who does that? He moved the body. THAT'S why the case is going on for so long. They couldn't get the chalk-outline guy to trace around it. Everyone knows that's the most important part of any murder investigation. You learn that on like, day one of murder investigation school.
Nuts!
