Hands up if you're wearing your England shirt around town today!
Jul 19th 2009, 12:30 am
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Jul 19th 2009, 2:32 am
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Re: Hands up if you're wearing your England shirt around town today!
Great news to wake up to.... Australia 152 for 8, some 70-odd runs from a miserable follow on.
I'm out with my daughter today, the shops, play park, Bunnings, Coles, don't care .... anywhere I can wear my shirt with pride!
I'll look out for you in your shirt / cap / Barmy Army T or are you one of the hundreds of British traitors on here who thinks their Australian!???!!
.... .oooops rab ducks for cover - they won't like that in Modbury
I'm out with my daughter today, the shops, play park, Bunnings, Coles, don't care .... anywhere I can wear my shirt with pride!
I'll look out for you in your shirt / cap / Barmy Army T or are you one of the hundreds of British traitors on here who thinks their Australian!???!!
.... .oooops rab ducks for cover - they won't like that in Modbury
The original england flag is a white griffon on a red background, adopted by the angles years ago before that st george crap. Not the "St george" cross, as many so called "true english patriots" believe.
The word england also stems from the translation angleland, blah blah yada yada.
As for walking round oz or any other country wearing a union flag/st george cross cause a load of blokes can wack a lump of cork/wood about, kick a round ball of air about(football I think its called) I go back to my first reply.
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Jul 19th 2009, 2:25 pm
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Re: Hands up if you're wearing your England shirt around town today!
In my experience, those English people that changed sporting allegiance were not really that into sport when they were back in Blighty in the first place. If you're a sporting fanatic then generally you pick a team (or you are born into it) and you stick with it.
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Jul 19th 2009, 2:34 pm
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For me, my first and only football team will be Sunderland (someone has to, and I put up with an immense amount of stick from my partner AND kids about it, but first love etc etc).. over and above that, if Australia plays England at anything, I'll be a supporter of the winners
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Jul 19th 2009, 4:22 pm
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But of course, and I also check Newcastle's as my traitorous brother supports them. Finally this season I had something over him, other than the photo of him in a Sunderland strip age 7.
Himself, a fervent Liverpool supporter also checks their results (Eldest and Youngest follow his lead in footy matters) and then we have a laugh about Leeds (Middlechild)
Its weird tho, as I said in the previous post, England v Australia wouldn't particularly fill me with Nationalistic fervour and I hope they both do well in the World Cup and any other sporting events they may both be pitched in. However, come the next State of Origin I'll still be a Queensland girl through and through, even though we'll be living in NSW then.
Jul 21st 2009, 8:45 am
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I never understood english people who move to Australia or anywhere else for that matter although mainly those that move to Oz and then declare they no longer support or back England as they are now Ozzies. I dont think you will find any other nationality doing this even those that have been forced to leave there own countries under terrible circumstances, Iraqis Iranians Afghanis would all turn out and support there teams if they played Australia at soccer even though they might totally hate the present regime they are proud of there roots and there history and this goes for every nation i care to think of except the english.Greek, Italian Serbs Croats could be 2nd 3rd generation but still support there parents home country. An Aussie could live in England his whole life, even support England if they were playing a third party at something, but never in a million years would they barrack for England against Australia and nobody would expect them too. I have often speculated on what causes this in the English, the Welsh, Scots and Irish dont suffer this cultural cringe so why so many english. The funniest or saddest ones are the ones that virtually deny they were born there.
You are dead right about cultural cringe though, many people are embarassed to be doing the engerland thing or wearing a top...not sure if this is solely an English cringe - I know there is certainly an Australian equivalent...
Speaking for myself, I am generally alot less partisan than I was and don't wear tops any more - but that is because I have grown out of *overt* sports nationalism having lived in several countries and realised many are all the same. The game is bigger than the country...
The Tebbit test indicates that I am still a sporting England supporter as the RWC 2007 and now the Ashes series shows..
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Jul 21st 2009, 8:53 am
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In terms of lifestyle and choosing where to live and set up a home, I choose to 'support' Australia. I am a new Australian, to coin a phrase - and officially hold dual citizenship. I feel nothing but utterly privileged..
Jul 21st 2009, 2:00 pm
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Jul 21st 2009, 2:11 pm
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I agree. Lets just make it the UK. (and lets be modern about it too... UK as a new word on its own, not an abbreviation of united kingdom).
Then lets make scotland, england, wales and N.I. into states.
Jul 21st 2009, 4:02 pm
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I never understood english people who move to Australia or anywhere else for that matter although mainly those that move to Oz and then declare they no longer support or back England as they are now Ozzies. I dont think you will find any other nationality doing this even those that have been forced to leave there own countries under terrible circumstances, Iraqis Iranians Afghanis would all turn out and support there teams if they played Australia at soccer even though they might totally hate the present regime they are proud of there roots and there history and this goes for every nation i care to think of except the english.Greek, Italian Serbs Croats could be 2nd 3rd generation but still support there parents home country. An Aussie could live in England his whole life, even support England if they were playing a third party at something, but never in a million years would they barrack for England against Australia and nobody would expect them too. I have often speculated on what causes this in the English, the Welsh, Scots and Irish dont suffer this cultural cringe so why so many english. The funniest or saddest ones are the ones that virtually deny they were born there.
Jul 21st 2009, 4:18 pm
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Jul 21st 2009, 7:37 pm
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But you know, I don't own any Aussie tops apart from S14 jerseys...nor do I feel the urge to..
Jul 21st 2009, 7:44 pm
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I used to wear my England top down the pub just after 2003 world cup victory. The reactions were priceless. The Aussies would mumble into their beers and the old ten pounders would roll their eyes and laugh. My Scot mate would laugh and pat us on the back. It can be a little like wearing a swastika to the synagogue at times.
After all my years in Austraya, I find it comforting to see people in their England gear - its nice to know that not everyone has forgotten where they came from. Im also glad in a pompous way that the whole of the UK is known for greater things than sporting prowess.
After all my years in Austraya, I find it comforting to see people in their England gear - its nice to know that not everyone has forgotten where they came from. Im also glad in a pompous way that the whole of the UK is known for greater things than sporting prowess.
Jul 21st 2009, 9:14 pm
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But this would be an utter, utter minority. Not many on this forum have ever said that. I think supporting Australia is a completely different issue to whether you choose to wear a nasty top. There are hundreds on this forum and thousands of people in Perth who support England but won't be wearing a top. For all my love of Australia culturally, I have never supported them against England but allowed myself a wry smile at both their antics...
You are dead right about cultural cringe though, many people are embarassed to be doing the engerland thing or wearing a top...not sure if this is solely an English cringe - I know there is certainly an Australian equivalent...
Speaking for myself, I am generally alot less partisan than I was and don't wear tops any more - but that is because I have grown out of *overt* sports nationalism having lived in several countries and realised many are all the same. The game is bigger than the country...
The Tebbit test indicates that I am still a sporting England supporter as the RWC 2007 and now the Ashes series shows..
B
You are dead right about cultural cringe though, many people are embarassed to be doing the engerland thing or wearing a top...not sure if this is solely an English cringe - I know there is certainly an Australian equivalent...
Speaking for myself, I am generally alot less partisan than I was and don't wear tops any more - but that is because I have grown out of *overt* sports nationalism having lived in several countries and realised many are all the same. The game is bigger than the country...
The Tebbit test indicates that I am still a sporting England supporter as the RWC 2007 and now the Ashes series shows..
B
I ment the general lack of pride displayed by many english people in the country. I look at the bigger picture and dont just concentrate on the ups and downs of the current economic or political climate. England is also a very sucsesfull sporting nation although many would say the opposite but the facts are on my side.
