Gym subsidies for people to lose weight?
Jun 25th 2009, 3:58 pm
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Re: Gym subsidies for people to lose weight?
This is a commonly held belief, but it is wrong. For starters the calculation is:
Nett calorific gain = Calorific value of food consumed - (daily calorific requirements + Calorific value of waste)
The body is very good at not digesting food it doesn't need to, so if your body is in biochemical balance then the amount of food you eat is pretty much irrelevant, you will only digest the amount you need and pass the rest. The problem comes when your body think it isn't getting enough food, and this is detected by monitoring blood sugar level.
Nett calorific gain = Calorific value of food consumed - (daily calorific requirements + Calorific value of waste)
The body is very good at not digesting food it doesn't need to, so if your body is in biochemical balance then the amount of food you eat is pretty much irrelevant, you will only digest the amount you need and pass the rest. The problem comes when your body think it isn't getting enough food, and this is detected by monitoring blood sugar level.
Much as I respect what you're saying, it's b*ll*cks.
Jun 25th 2009, 4:01 pm
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Re: Gym subsidies for people to lose weight?
It's biochemistry baby. And a fair bit of endocrinology.
Jun 25th 2009, 4:08 pm
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Re: Gym subsidies for people to lose weight?
Would love to discuss more, but I'm off to work at the gym. Got to help more overweight people lose bodyfat. Amazing how they achieve that just by exercising, if it doesn't work, hey?
Jun 25th 2009, 4:15 pm
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Re: Gym subsidies for people to lose weight?
This is a commonly held belief, but it is wrong. For starters the calculation is:
Nett calorific gain = Calorific value of food consumed - (daily calorific requirements + Calorific value of waste)
The body is very good at not digesting food it doesn't need to, so if your body is in biochemical balance then the amount of food you eat is pretty much irrelevant, you will only digest the amount you need and pass the rest. The problem comes when your body think it isn't getting enough food, and this is detected by monitoring blood sugar level.
Nett calorific gain = Calorific value of food consumed - (daily calorific requirements + Calorific value of waste)
The body is very good at not digesting food it doesn't need to, so if your body is in biochemical balance then the amount of food you eat is pretty much irrelevant, you will only digest the amount you need and pass the rest. The problem comes when your body think it isn't getting enough food, and this is detected by monitoring blood sugar level.
Generally speaking though, sugar will spike insulin levels which in turn will make the body store fat. Protein, will counteract the sugar, reducing insulin levels and convert it to energy. Energy still needs to be expended though or it will be converted to fat.
Jun 25th 2009, 4:19 pm
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Re: Gym subsidies for people to lose weight?
It's the first time I have heard of that as well.
Jun 25th 2009, 4:49 pm
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Re: Gym subsidies for people to lose weight?
Regulation of digestive enzymes. The more the body produces the more of a particular type of food is digested.
The body can't, however, regulate the amount of sugar taken up by the blood since it passes pretty much directly in. Nor can it regulate simple carbs, since they are broken down to sugars by gut bacteria and this sugar is passed directly into the blood.
Example: If your body needs fats it will produce lots of lipases. If it doesn't it will produce low levels of lipases and most of the fat you eat will pass straight through you.
Same thing goes for proteins and complex carbs (most of which mainly cellulose we essentially can't digest at all).
The body can't, however, regulate the amount of sugar taken up by the blood since it passes pretty much directly in. Nor can it regulate simple carbs, since they are broken down to sugars by gut bacteria and this sugar is passed directly into the blood.
Example: If your body needs fats it will produce lots of lipases. If it doesn't it will produce low levels of lipases and most of the fat you eat will pass straight through you.
Same thing goes for proteins and complex carbs (most of which mainly cellulose we essentially can't digest at all).
Jun 25th 2009, 4:52 pm
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Re: Gym subsidies for people to lose weight?
Look you lot stop using so many long scientific words, I can't cope with it...
Should tax payers be funding fatties to go to the gym or not?
Should tax payers be funding fatties to go to the gym or not?
Jun 25th 2009, 4:57 pm
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Jun 25th 2009, 4:58 pm
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Re: Gym subsidies for people to lose weight?
Well, I'm feeling a bit topical today so would anyone care to discuss this?
"Overweight people could be paid to lose weight under a radical plan to combat the nation's obesity crisis".
I think it's a good idea in theory, but my argument would be that losing weight isn't just about exercise - getting the diet right is equally or more important.
What do we think? Is it a good idea or is being overweight a personal problem as opposed to a tax payers issue?
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment...007185,00.html
"Overweight people could be paid to lose weight under a radical plan to combat the nation's obesity crisis".
I think it's a good idea in theory, but my argument would be that losing weight isn't just about exercise - getting the diet right is equally or more important.
What do we think? Is it a good idea or is being overweight a personal problem as opposed to a tax payers issue?
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment...007185,00.html
Jun 25th 2009, 5:00 pm
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Jun 25th 2009, 5:02 pm
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Re: Gym subsidies for people to lose weight?
I know it probably sounds a bit silly but I think they should have some sort of Biggest Loser/Diet programme on every night all year round. I reckon it would help.
Jun 25th 2009, 5:03 pm
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Re: Gym subsidies for people to lose weight?
Smokers do get funding already. For example Champix is funded to smokers who agree to speak to a councilor first and construct a quit plan. They save themselves about 80% of the cost of the drugs.
Jun 25th 2009, 5:06 pm
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