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Gillard- Complete amateur.

Smith- He's the man.

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I'm a liberal voter but I'm not comfortable with Abbot at all. Joe Hockey might be a better bet; not Turnbull, can't stand the bastard.

I hated Rudd, thank god he's gone - anyone thinking of putting him back in must have rocks in their head, there is a reason why they got rid of him remember ?

If Gillard wasn't in bed with the Greens and the Independents [i.e. had a proper majority] I would like to hope the policies coming out of the government would be more reasoned. However they aren't and it's time for a change.

p.s. The independents are already screaming that they only agreed to support Gillard, not another leader - no doubt hoping to save themselves from the forthcoming turfing-out at the next election. As for the Greens - I dearly hope that particular genie gets put back in its rightful box..er..lamp.

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Wouldn't you be looking for a reason to renege on that contract now in their position? :) Between a rock and a hard place.

Bringing back Rudd (assuming he is gullible enough to take the post) isn't going to be a silver bullet, even if they U-turn again and pull carbon tax/stop the boats/reach out to manufacturing unions etc. the public will still have a bitter taste.

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Gillard is hopelessly out of her depth, her govt. in it's death throes trying to cling on like a turd in a toilet. The whole thing is eventually going down the pan, it's just a case of when.

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"There will be no change of leader under a government I lead"
said Gillard.(makes sense sort of )
"There will be no Carbon Tax " said Gillard
"The Government has lost its way " said Gillard
"Kevin Rudd has my full backing" said Gillard

Which comment is most likely to be the one The Real Julia said ?

The optimism of Labor is all but gone , should never have aligned with that toxic Bob Brown Eye for starters , theres no way the Greens would ever have supported the Liberals.

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She can, at least, form a sentence. :)

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Julie Bishop is evil, just look behind the smog of hair product and you'll see ...

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... perfectly applied eye make-up.

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Do not look her in the eyes. She has a death stare.

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One of the comments on the News.com.au story is something along the lines of....

Only one labor poly can organise a root in a brothel - but they just found out he was using someone elses money.


< Boom Boom > Love the aussie humor.

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What a State our politics is in, talk about being between a rock and a hard place.

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I hope Kevin Rudd can keep his hands clean and his back covered until New Year 2013 (unless everything dissolves beforehand) then he should go for the Julia jugular. :thumbup:

Only thing is... how low can she go before she's dumped (too early).

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I think his party hates him even if few others do. It wasn't that long ago he polled badly.

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I would have been happier if the union had paid for the duck pond and house :thumbup:

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And moat cleaning?


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the polls are misleading. the questions are loaded to say who would you prefer for labor leader julia or krudd.

as a gent, its akin to being asked if you would like to be hit in the left ball or the right ball.
There's no chance of Kevin getting back in. I just hope that she gets booted out quickly. But I'm not thrilled with the prosepct of Tony Abbot coming into power. Its a textbook case of a rock and hard place.

The whole kevin ousting move highlighted a real issue I have with Australian politics (notably the ALP). You are voting for one party, but within that party there are factional splits as they dont all agree with each others agenda and firection. They are quite prepared to stab their party leader in the back if they think he is not working in the interests of the majority faction (at the time) within the party. Just who are you voting for?

And the other thing that bugs me is the way that politicians feel the need to jump in bed with various lobbying groups (such as the ACL, Family First etc), whose highly personalalised (and often sensationalist and reactionary) policy just gets in the way of progression and causes barriers to actual democratic decision.

And finally, the whole issue with Michael Atkinson (SA) holding up any kind of classification review for about a decade, based on nothing but his personal opinion, just shows that the system does not work very well. One mans personal agenda can actually prevent nationwide changes despite the overwhelming public support for amendmend.

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Thing is, when you dispassionately stand back and say "they are all sh*t, now which is the least worst? You find that Julia comes out pretty well.

Sure Rudd is probably better, but he's not about to get reinstated and if he were, it would go even worse for the labor party.

The reality is Tony or Julia, and in that there is no contest. Tony would be an unmitigated disaster of a Bachmann or Palin-sized proportions. He's no clue, no strategic vision, no understanding, no policies, no gravitas - nothing. You would literally do better to have nobody as PM than have him.

He wants power. It's the only thing he wants. He will whore himself out for the biggest payoff, the most extreme flattery, a future cushy job. He will always take the easiest way out, the biggest payoff for him. He will preen like the most tinpot dictator you can imagine.

You might not like Julia's voice, but you have to say she has taken policies positions which are in Australia's best interest, rather than her own electability. Not always the best policies, and not always carried through, but the heart is in the right place.

That makes her 1:0 up when compared to Tony.

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You shouldn't be allowed out on your own

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I have to agree with this. The shady characters in the backrooms pulling the strings - the powerbrokers if you like - concern me, particularly where the ALP is concerned. I just don't understand what their bottom line is. Trade Unions have, in the past, done a good job of protecting the rights of low paid and vulnerable workers. But what do they get out of such blatant string pulling from the government? I don't see much interest in protecting the workers any more. Unless paying for hookers with union subs is a form of protection.

I understand that the big business supports the Liberal party equally, however I do understand what the bottom line is with business - making money - and it may be greed, and it may be lobbying for profit, but there's nothing sinister in that - it's completely understandable, because that's what business is.


Yes, this bugged me as well. There has been, for many years, overwhelming support for an R18+ games rating, yet successive governments have failed to implement it because of Atkinson's standpoint. Thankfully, it looks like it's moving forward now.


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I was thinking the same thing. In fact, he should be locked up in a straightjacket;).

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You're right, if I go out alone I'm mobbed by adoring fans. I need bodyguards to protect me from the adulation.

You, however, seem to have nothing to say that's worth hearing, and content yourself with snide sniping from the sidelines - bereft of a coherent argument and just parroting the hate talking points of others.

Or can you substantiate the idea that Tony wouldn't screw things up badly? Far worse than Julia?

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But Don maybe a Bob Katter supporter.:p

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there's a man with a face so evil I cant see how people like him, or vote for him!
I can almost picture him starring in the next Guy Ritchie Lock Stock style movie (*), chopping up a corpse and loving it.


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"Do you know what nemesis means?
A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an ' orrible ****. Me"

(*) or based on his hat in this picture, it could also be some kind of Australian ****ed up inbred hillbilly film/tv series like Wolf Creek or anything else ever made in Australia.

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I wish you hadn't done that. I've lost my breakfast now.

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Ok I take it All back......

The guy clearly didn't use his credit card inappropriately because the nsw police have decided there is no evidence because they can't find any receipts

Un-believable. Someone should teachn the police dudes about computers and banks who keep pretty good records of where cards were used

Stunning outcome truly stunning

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Ditto that.

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Yes, you're right - this is a stunning result.

This may have an unwanted effect for the government. In the minds of the people, Thomson was guilty, and now it looks like he will likely get away with spending low paid union members subs on hookers.

There's still political mileage to be had in this yet I think.


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The polis found there was no deception - no crime committed
Craig used the card and it was validated .
He just needs to deny it was him in Parliament - then its a crime.

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I'd heard that the NSW Police have said that it is a matter for the Victorian Police to deal with.

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The commentary I heard this morning was that Victorian police are likely to declare it a civil matter. It will be the union that has to sue Craig Thomson. Don't you love the way the ALP can rip itself apart on these matters. The coalition cover these things up much better.

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I see the Prime Minster [no not Julia, the other one] has ranted again:

Brown calls for Immigration Sackings

Can someone explain to Bob these are civil servants and are therefore non-political [in theory anyway]. You can't f***ing sack them just because you don't like what they say.

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Abbott will do whatever it takes to gain the trappings of power and that would possibly include selling any and everything to become top dog.
It does look rather that sadly he may achieve his wish which it may be reasonably assumed will have the result of increasing the ever widening inequality gap within the nation.

Sadly Gillard has been a major let down with little achieved to date while she's been on watch.
The Labor Party may take quite sometime to recover from this.
My fear being the coming down turn which will eventually occur when the demand for commodities resides and a weaker dollar results will be the catalyst for the introduction of tough policies not yet imagined would be in place in Australia.

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As long as he cuts income tax, scraps the mining and carbon taxes, cuts welfare, waters down the IR laws and increases defence spending then I don't give a shit what else he does.

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That would run up a deficit.

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Firing 20% of civil servants would sort that out

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:banghead:

Do they really let him out without supervision?

I thought it was only the US that suffered from the teabaggers and the moron vote?

Does nobody here actually *think* through their political positions?

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Your stunned? Don't forget this is the same police that found Chris Hurley not guilty of any crime & paid him compensation. The poor bloke that had his liver cleaved in half & died in agony simply fell on the steps:rolleyes:
What pisses me off more is knowing several serving officers that are still having trouble coming to terms with that particular injustice. They are dead honest dedicated members of the police yet appalled by this mans gall.
Do you think that the union will bring a case? As I see it the whole sordid matter will fester for a while with nothing ever really being resolved one way or another. The reason being the unions would rather have liars in govt. than the current opposition.

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So would I

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Unions want labour in power but the politics of that union seem poisonous. Abbott is not innocent on the lying front and is on record justifying lying. It is a sad part of politics. Remember Howards non core promises that could be broken.

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As the (not so) great Tim Allen used to say, 'It's Tool Time!'

So me wanting our government to reduce taxes and waste gets a post like yours? Yep, definitely Tool Time.

It's socialist morons like you who allow a government like ours to introduce hard-left wealth redistribution taxes under the guise of saving the environment (or some other mumbo jumbo in other countries).

Fool.