Gillard's 3rd Strike
#1
Gillard's 3rd Strike
1. Carbon Tax that was promised wouldn't happen and now is happening.
2. Supporting an MP whom a blind man could see is lying about using Union funds for paying for prostitution and lying to conceal the fact
3. Asylum Policy destroyed because its illegal
Please will someone put us out of her misery.
All the crisis management lessons in history suggest that when bad things happen the leadership should admit it, stand up, commit to fixing it. The worst thing you can do - as proven time and time again - is to paper over, and trivialise or dodge - On 1, 2, 3 above they have dodged the issue.
I cannot believe that the aforementioned Union leader with poor cash management skills is still a sitting MP - Building a duck-pond with an approved expenses claim is one thing - spending 100,000 on hookers and what-not and then "losing" all the financial records and lying about it to the press, public, etc is entirely different.
2. Supporting an MP whom a blind man could see is lying about using Union funds for paying for prostitution and lying to conceal the fact
3. Asylum Policy destroyed because its illegal
Please will someone put us out of her misery.
All the crisis management lessons in history suggest that when bad things happen the leadership should admit it, stand up, commit to fixing it. The worst thing you can do - as proven time and time again - is to paper over, and trivialise or dodge - On 1, 2, 3 above they have dodged the issue.
I cannot believe that the aforementioned Union leader with poor cash management skills is still a sitting MP - Building a duck-pond with an approved expenses claim is one thing - spending 100,000 on hookers and what-not and then "losing" all the financial records and lying about it to the press, public, etc is entirely different.
#2
Re: Gillard's 3rd Strike
Made a promise associated with having a majority, and when they didn't, made an accommodation with a party to form a majority in a democratic fashion. +1 for actually not being an arse and doing the right thing (eg not increasing the pollution and putting in place policies that might reduce it).
Not having a choice, because of the fragile nature of the numbers. As to what she would do if she had 20 in hand, we don't know, but my guess is she would dump him. If you think he should have been dumped, you shouldn't have voted for the right wing in the first place.
Suffered what looks to be a VERY dodge decision by a court which goes against most of the case law of asylum (first point of safe harbour), and now has to deal with the crap falling out from that. Probably best would be to reform the court to fix the bad decision making, but fat chance of that whilst there is political capital to be made.
Seems like nothing wrong has been done that isn't forced by the political system, or a court that make little sense. You want to change that, change the board the game is being played on.
Frankly it would be less of an issue if Tony wasn't a Sword of Damocles - hanging over any sane policies in Australia. Ditch that turd and we can talk about fixing things, otherwise Gillard is much the least worst option.
Suffered what looks to be a VERY dodge decision by a court which goes against most of the case law of asylum (first point of safe harbour), and now has to deal with the crap falling out from that. Probably best would be to reform the court to fix the bad decision making, but fat chance of that whilst there is political capital to be made.
Seems like nothing wrong has been done that isn't forced by the political system, or a court that make little sense. You want to change that, change the board the game is being played on.
Frankly it would be less of an issue if Tony wasn't a Sword of Damocles - hanging over any sane policies in Australia. Ditch that turd and we can talk about fixing things, otherwise Gillard is much the least worst option.
#3
Re: Gillard's 3rd Strike
Tick tock tick tock
Gillard's in the dock
Lose lose lose lose
How long is her fuse?
Time for you to go ginger
Just look at everyone's middle finger
Gillard's in the dock
Lose lose lose lose
How long is her fuse?
Time for you to go ginger
Just look at everyone's middle finger
#5
Re: Gillard's 3rd Strike
Maybe when Abbott comes up with a policy other than "No, let me wreck that for you" and "I'll give you a half arsed worse version of what Julia proposed" then I'll consider it.
Nice how Abbott was quoted by an independent this week as saying he would do anything to become prime minister except sell his arse. And that he might even be willing to do that. Charming fool of a PM he will make. Give me Julia any day rather than that vile man.
Nice how Abbott was quoted by an independent this week as saying he would do anything to become prime minister except sell his arse. And that he might even be willing to do that. Charming fool of a PM he will make. Give me Julia any day rather than that vile man.
#6
Re: Gillard's 3rd Strike
Maybe when Abbott comes up with a policy other than "No, let me wreck that for you" and "I'll give you a half arsed worse version of what Julia proposed" then I'll consider it.
Nice how Abbott was quoted by an independent this week as saying he would do anything to become prime minister except sell his arse. And that he might even be willing to do that. Charming fool of a PM he will make. Give me Julia any day rather than that vile man.
Nice how Abbott was quoted by an independent this week as saying he would do anything to become prime minister except sell his arse. And that he might even be willing to do that. Charming fool of a PM he will make. Give me Julia any day rather than that vile man.
Reason a Bennite like myself wants rid of her...She is probably the most hopeless Labour Leader I've ever had the misfortune to see... including Mark Latham. She is doing irreparable harm to the party.
If I was a staunch Lib... I'd be willing her to stay in for the next two years... As to maximise the possiblity of killing the Labour party for a generation.
So Bring on Tony Abbot please.... he is Labours best long term hope
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Blimey a more staunch labour supporter than me... never thought I'd see that
Reason a Bennite like myself wants rid of her...She is probably the most hopeless Labour Leader I've ever had the misfortune to see... including Mark Latham. She is doing irreparable harm to the party.
If I was a staunch Lib... I'd be willing her to stay in for the next two years... As to maximise the possiblity of killing the Labour party for a generation.
So Bring on Tony Abbot please.... he is Labours best long term hope
Reason a Bennite like myself wants rid of her...She is probably the most hopeless Labour Leader I've ever had the misfortune to see... including Mark Latham. She is doing irreparable harm to the party.
If I was a staunch Lib... I'd be willing her to stay in for the next two years... As to maximise the possiblity of killing the Labour party for a generation.
So Bring on Tony Abbot please.... he is Labours best long term hope
#8
Re: Gillard's 3rd Strike
Blimey a more staunch labour supporter than me... never thought I'd see that
Reason a Bennite like myself wants rid of her...She is probably the most hopeless Labour Leader I've ever had the misfortune to see... including Mark Latham. She is doing irreparable harm to the party.
If I was a staunch Lib... I'd be willing her to stay in for the next two years... As to maximise the possiblity of killing the Labour party for a generation.
So Bring on Tony Abbot please.... he is Labour's best long term hope
Reason a Bennite like myself wants rid of her...She is probably the most hopeless Labour Leader I've ever had the misfortune to see... including Mark Latham. She is doing irreparable harm to the party.
If I was a staunch Lib... I'd be willing her to stay in for the next two years... As to maximise the possiblity of killing the Labour party for a generation.
So Bring on Tony Abbot please.... he is Labour's best long term hope
The obvious thing she lacks is the style/presence demanded of a prime minister but as I prefer smart quiet people over stupid noisy ones I like her. It may be her undoing but I still won't think less of her for being an intelligent pragmatic person doing her best. Reports from "all" sides of parliament, including the LNP and the press, have over a long period described her as an intelligent decent hardworking person who has always strived to reach agreement and find the central ground.
Abbott has had barely one useful idea, has a self declared lack of interest in economics, has a poor team around him, is ideologically driven, is religious in the worst opportunistic judgemental way, has poor morals, knows nothing about technology (thinks wireless is taking over wired), has a bad record as a health minister including letting his religious beliefs interfere with his decisions, uses dog whistle politics without regard to the victims, lies about his beliefs and changes his mind on a political whim to whatever will fool enough people to get him the prime ministership he reportedly craves. Just because his tactics are working you won't find me on that bandwagon.
I can't wait for the day decent more moderate Liberal party members take back the party and provide a genuine choice like we used to have.
Last edited by fish.01; Sep 1st 2011 at 1:40 pm.
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Further to my above, I think Gillard will hang on and then yes, Labour will be cast out but ONLY if a replacement for Abbott is found AND early enough.
#10
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"The Labor team supports me as the best person to do this job as prime minister," Ms Gillard said.
The proverbial vote of confidence?
The proverbial vote of confidence?
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I just wish to go she'd sort her hair out!
She's shacked up with a hairdresser FGS.
She's shacked up with a hairdresser FGS.
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I heard a Perth journalist interview one of the Greens senators this morning about the High Court decision http://www.6pr.com.au/blogs/6pr-pert...uj.html:blink:.
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I heard a Perth journalist interview one of the Greens senators this morning about the High Court decision http://www.6pr.com.au/blogs/6pr-pert...uj.html:blink:.
I thought it good that the courts proved to be independant of government. That's the job of the law courts, to interpret the law, not do what the govt. of the day wants them to.
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Sorry, I'll try it again. The interview was by Paul Murray with Senator Sarah Hanson-Young http://www.6pr.com.au/blogs/6pr-pert...901-1jmuj.html. It was on 6PR and called Stop whinging, do something, on their home page at http://www.6pr.com.au/.
#15
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Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin...............
It's just a matter of time.
He's probably got the knife out of his back by now and its going to be a beauty of a boomerang.
It's just a matter of time.
He's probably got the knife out of his back by now and its going to be a beauty of a boomerang.