George Michael jailed.
Sep 17th 2010, 8:46 pm
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You are the only person who I've ever heard/read say he has a sex addiction. So he likes a bit of strange. So what? That does not make him an addict any more than if he were hiring prostitutes in a hotel room.
How are you defining a "bit of strange". Masterbating in the washroom at a playground while kids are playing outside is proof that the man has a problem which needs to be dealt with. Im not referring to his acceptance and/or inacceptance of his sexual orientation.
And who cares "why" he has issues. Do you not think that 90% of the inmates in prison have issues? And again, correct me if I'm wrong but driving under the influence is a criminal issue.
How are you defining a "bit of strange". Masterbating in the washroom at a playground while kids are playing outside is proof that the man has a problem which needs to be dealt with. Im not referring to his acceptance and/or inacceptance of his sexual orientation.
And who cares "why" he has issues. Do you not think that 90% of the inmates in prison have issues? And again, correct me if I'm wrong but driving under the influence is a criminal issue.
As I have said before and will say again. Throwing a "drug addict" in jail serves no purpose. He is merely a minnow in a pond of bigger fish.
Sep 17th 2010, 8:46 pm
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Sep 17th 2010, 9:13 pm
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For the love of god folks lets face facts here. The war on drugs is over.We keep pouring good money after bad fighting a war that we lost years ago. We need to come into the 21st century and realize that drugs are here to stay, and the legalization of drugs (supply and demand) would be the first step in the right direction (as many european countries have already done). We also need to set up safe injection sites for the addicts who will never overcome their addiction and safe housing......
As I have said before and will say again. Throwing a "drug addict" in jail serves no purpose. He is merely a minnow in a pond of bigger fish.
Want to 'win' that war? Poison the supply. Let everybody shooting up know that, that next hit WILL be your last.
Sep 17th 2010, 9:54 pm
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I don't believe that for one single second. It's just a platitude. Easy to say you will do it before the fact.
and that is why I suggest they be admitted involuntary.....
Cool.. so we spend decades discouraging people to give up smoking and then at the same time legalise another whole series of drugs and drugs yet unknown, the effects of which nobody really knows, because the war on drugs is lost. Smart move.
Want to 'win' that war? Poison the supply. Let everybody shooting up know that, that next hit WILL be your last.
and that is why I suggest they be admitted involuntary.....
Cool.. so we spend decades discouraging people to give up smoking and then at the same time legalise another whole series of drugs and drugs yet unknown, the effects of which nobody really knows, because the war on drugs is lost. Smart move.
Want to 'win' that war? Poison the supply. Let everybody shooting up know that, that next hit WILL be your last.
Sep 17th 2010, 9:58 pm
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and that idea will be ever so helpful when there is no social safety net to support these addicts and we'll have rotting human flesh all over the streets. How would we explain to our children that we have become a society of no compassion, tolerance and acceptance for those less fortunate.....
Sep 17th 2010, 10:03 pm
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Do you have ANY personal experience of anybody addicted to drugs or any personal experience of drugs within your social circle... because based on your comments of addicts being "less fortunate" and needing "social safety nets" I would surmise that you don't.
Sep 17th 2010, 10:57 pm
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Why does it matter if Ive had experience or not. What is important is that we teach our kids compasison for others less fortunate than ourselves whether with handling an addiction, poverty or mental/physical challenges and as a society it is our responsibility to provide ao social safety net for these people....
My nephew was a drug addict all his adult life. He sucked dry all the compassion everybody had for him and the social safety net you are so fond of. If it hadn't recently killed him he would have carried on doing so and viewing you as some sucker to sponge off. He certainly took from everybody else.
So come on then, the "war on drugs is lost" (we lost the war on theft thousands of years ago but I bet you still have a lock on your door and are not calling for that to be made legal) and you want it legalised.
Which drugs do you want made legal?
All of them?
Any drug that anybody can concoct in the future should be legal?
What message does that send while simultaneously telling people not to smoke as it's 'bad for your health'?
Sep 18th 2010, 12:25 am
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So your answer is no then? ...and to be honest it shows.
My nephew was a drug addict all his adult life. He sucked dry all the compassion everybody had for him and the social safety net you are so fond of. If it hadn't recently killed him he would have carried on doing so and viewing you as some sucker to sponge off. He certainly took from everybody else.
So come on then, the "war on drugs is lost" (we lost the war on theft thousands of years ago but I bet you still have a lock on your door and are not calling for that to be made legal) and you want it legalised.
Which drugs do you want made legal?
All of them?
Any drug that anybody can concoct in the future should be legal?
What message does that send while simultaneously telling people not to smoke as it's 'bad for your health'?
My nephew was a drug addict all his adult life. He sucked dry all the compassion everybody had for him and the social safety net you are so fond of. If it hadn't recently killed him he would have carried on doing so and viewing you as some sucker to sponge off. He certainly took from everybody else.
So come on then, the "war on drugs is lost" (we lost the war on theft thousands of years ago but I bet you still have a lock on your door and are not calling for that to be made legal) and you want it legalised.
Which drugs do you want made legal?
All of them?
Any drug that anybody can concoct in the future should be legal?
What message does that send while simultaneously telling people not to smoke as it's 'bad for your health'?
When someone is addicted to drugs, all they can think about is how to get their next hit and they'd sell their mother to do so. Its been proven in at leaast two european countries that the legalization of drugs and having safe injection sites has decreased the not only the use of drugs but all the diseases that come from injecting with dirty needles.
Your nephew's death should prove to you that we need to think that the current system being used is not working and we need to integrate a new and better system to support and help these addicts not desert them along the side of the road.
As far as Im concerned all drugs should be legalized and then taxed to death by the govt. The revenue the govt received could be used for the social safety net for these addicts, in the same manner that cigarettes are taxed to death in canada and the revenue (in part) is used for the health care system.
In any case, I must run - its hockey nite in canada.
Take care and be well.....and again Im truly sorry about your nephew.....
Sep 18th 2010, 12:40 am
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First Im very very sorry to hear about your nephew. How very tragic.
When someone is addicted to drugs, all they can think about is how to get their next hit and they'd sell their mother to do so. Its been proven in at leaast two european countries that the legalization of drugs and having safe injection sites has decreased the not only the use of drugs but all the diseases that come from injecting with dirty needles.
Your nephew's death should prove to you that we need to think that the current system being used is not working and we need to integrate a new and better system to support and help these addicts not desert them along the side of the road.
As far as Im concerned all drugs should be legalized and then taxed to death by the govt. The revenue the govt received could be used for the social safety net for these addicts, in the same manner that cigarettes are taxed to death in canada and the revenue (in part) is used for the health care system.
In any case, I must run - its hockey nite in canada.
Take care and be well.....and again Im truly sorry about your nephew.....
When someone is addicted to drugs, all they can think about is how to get their next hit and they'd sell their mother to do so. Its been proven in at leaast two european countries that the legalization of drugs and having safe injection sites has decreased the not only the use of drugs but all the diseases that come from injecting with dirty needles.
Your nephew's death should prove to you that we need to think that the current system being used is not working and we need to integrate a new and better system to support and help these addicts not desert them along the side of the road.
As far as Im concerned all drugs should be legalized and then taxed to death by the govt. The revenue the govt received could be used for the social safety net for these addicts, in the same manner that cigarettes are taxed to death in canada and the revenue (in part) is used for the health care system.
In any case, I must run - its hockey nite in canada.
Take care and be well.....and again Im truly sorry about your nephew.....
It's usually populated by people "who did some drugs at Uni and it never harmed me" or those, like yourself, who say we should legalize everything and anything, without ever really thinking that through.
It will just end up with me banging my head against the wall at the naivety of the liberalist views of some folk, most of whom have no personal experience whatsoever of having a drug addict in the family.
Sep 18th 2010, 6:42 am
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Re: George Michael jailed.
First Im very very sorry to hear about your nephew. How very tragic.
When someone is addicted to drugs, all they can think about is how to get their next hit and they'd sell their mother to do so. Its been proven in at leaast two european countries that the legalization of drugs and having safe injection sites has decreased the not only the use of drugs but all the diseases that come from injecting with dirty needles.
Your nephew's death should prove to you that we need to think that the current system being used is not working and we need to integrate a new and better system to support and help these addicts not desert them along the side of the road.
As far as Im concerned all drugs should be legalized and then taxed to death by the govt. The revenue the govt received could be used for the social safety net for these addicts, in the same manner that cigarettes are taxed to death in canada and the revenue (in part) is used for the health care system.
In any case, I must run - its hockey nite in canada.
Take care and be well.....and again Im truly sorry about your nephew.....
When someone is addicted to drugs, all they can think about is how to get their next hit and they'd sell their mother to do so. Its been proven in at leaast two european countries that the legalization of drugs and having safe injection sites has decreased the not only the use of drugs but all the diseases that come from injecting with dirty needles.
Your nephew's death should prove to you that we need to think that the current system being used is not working and we need to integrate a new and better system to support and help these addicts not desert them along the side of the road.
As far as Im concerned all drugs should be legalized and then taxed to death by the govt. The revenue the govt received could be used for the social safety net for these addicts, in the same manner that cigarettes are taxed to death in canada and the revenue (in part) is used for the health care system.
In any case, I must run - its hockey nite in canada.
Take care and be well.....and again Im truly sorry about your nephew.....
Good luck. You'll need it
