Re: Geert Wilders
 

I do agree here which is why have little time for the left. Too eagar to support the minorities without thinking deep enough about the ramifications.

Re: Geert Wilders
 

And that's what the political elite of Europe - the champagne socialists - have been doing for decades, but now the times they are a changing. The right is on the rise across Europe - not an ideal situation but it is a reaction to being ignored. I used to like Merkel, but what she is doing at the moment is tantamount to treason - and the German people are going to judge her harshly

It would be better if our political systems were at the centre and everyone got along, but time and time again the left have treated their people with contempt and disdain and shown that they are incapable of proper government - and I think this time the people ain't gonna take it

Re: Geert Wilders
 

You mention Germany. I had a beer with a German colleague last week and we spoke about lots of German things. He was very pro Syrian immigration for 3 reasons. 1. Germany is the wealthiest country in Europe. 2. Germany needs workers for the manufacturing industry. 3. Germany wants to appear at complete opposites to the values Hitler installed 80 years ago.

I kind of got the feeling 3. was the most important reason.

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Been saying the highlighted bit on UKIP threads etc for ages, and been called a bigot, racist, blah blah blah. years of being fobbed off with band aid solutions take their toll. Ignore the will of the people at your peril. I'm far from being bigoted, homophobic, pretty much don't have an awful lot of hate in me at all, except for people who play the aforementioned cards if I happen to disagree with them, or heaven forbid can see both sides of the argument, these people are dicks, and dangerous ones.

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This is spot on Steve. People who would never consider themselves to be on the right are moving that way as they see their society, culture, religion and norms being torn apart and trashed - by their own political class and the right are the only ones offering a real alternative

What the left and islam apologists fail to grasp and understand is that people like Wilders are being democratically elected - in some of the most advanced liberal democracies of Europe. If it's elected and peaceful, it's legitimate

In so many aspects multiculturalism has failed, and failed miserably. Time to move to policies of integration and assimilation - and if this is not acceptable then it's time to adios

Re: Geert Wilders
 

Hope he tries to spout his venom in Melbourne. "Never in Melbourne" It's where Pauline fell down.

As for the rest of your post I tend to agree.

Where don't you see these Muslims intergrating.... ? They certainly do here in Melbournes North. Which is one of the most if not the most Muslim part of the Country.

Just because you see a Hijab or even Burqa don't assume the people underneath don't share most of Australias values. That's a major misconception, born out of fear in most cases.... Ignorance as well, which is understandable if your not mixing with these fine people.


Edit.... The number one group agreeing with you on expelling extreme fascist Islamists are actually your everyday Muslim person. So your on the same page there. Those speaking up from that side are the number one target of the nutters. Bit like Irish Catholics having a go at the IRA..... Only 100 times more extreme.


Geert Wilders in essence is doing ISIS work IMO in dividing the community.

Re: Geert Wilders
 

I think Geert Wilders says what a lot of people are thinking but are too scared to say out loud. The support for him, and others with the same views,is growing in UK and Europe and they are polling more and more with every election. Why is this? Perhaps it is because people have finally done some serious research into Islam and realise it is a medieval cult/ideology that has no purpose in the 21st century, and do not want their countries "taken over" by the Trojan Horse style of invasion that is creeping in. I take my hat off to him for his vision and his strength in not being squashed by the lefties and victim claiming islamists.

Re: Geert Wilders
 

Who and what people are you alluding this too ?

If your talking the Saudis, then maybe.... If your talking places like Iran, Indonesia (the largest Muslim nation in the world) Malaysia, Turkey, Egypt, Iraq and Syria before the Americans and the blind followers in the West did the Saudis bidding, then you've been conned.

Re: Geert Wilders
 

Don't live in a bubble - North Melbourne is not Australia and it certainly isn't Western Europe

Islam has created Wilders

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Who are where are the extreme Islamists that you see and fear ?

Re: Geert Wilders
 

Grab your Muslamic ray guns guys and help Geert eradict...... errrmmmm what ?


I always think of this clip when I see people spouting stuff they are obviously clueless about.

Re: Geert Wilders
 

1 2 3 4, I declare a youtube war
Seriously, there are dicks on both side of the fence, not all muslims are extremists? fair enough, but it's senseless to blankly deny their existence.
By the same token, most sane people in the UK wouldn't dream of voting UKIP(aside from the odd dummy spit), or going on an EDL rally, but one thing that both groups do have in common is that the less extreme folk still share the same views, albeit non-vocally, non marchy, and non bomby. How many people, on both sides of the fence are teetering on the edge of, '**** it, my aswell get hung for a sheep as a lamb'.
I'm with Zulu on this subject in so-far as Geert Wilders is a symptom of years people preaching acceptance of the unacceptable, and dismissing any criticism as the rantings of racists. I find the last bit of that sentence intensely offensive, I've always been a pretty liberal almost lefty myself, but when they tell me that my opinion must echo theirs or I'm an ill informed bigot then they can go and **** themselves.

Re: Geert Wilders
 

How about here?


In all seriousness, we know there are more good Muslims than bad, but we still keep seeing death, injury, and fear inflicted around the world in the name of Islam.

Its a bit like drugs. 99% of the time, drugs aren't going to hurt you or anyone else, but 1% of the time it causes damage and therefore its illegal in most countries.

Its the small percentage Islam that ruins it for everyone else.

The question is, should the world treat it like it treats drugs?

Re: Geert Wilders
 

I was going to make a long list of reasons ranging from Richard Reid to Charlie Hebdo to Lee Rigby to Theo Van Gogh to the fact that virtually all rapes in Oslo against ethnic Norwegian women are committed by muslim men, but then I though, why bother? All this is out there and if you can't see it then that's your issue

Re: Geert Wilders
 

A smoke and mirrors post

The guys in your video are dickheads and bring nothing to the debate, but you post it as some kind of justification for islamic extremism in the west - which I find a bit worrying

Also, before you do, using the IRA/ETA/Red Army Faction etc as another kind of justification is also smoke and mirrors. Those assholes were different to western muslim terrorists and anyway, that was then and this is now

It's nice that in your little corner of Melbourne, everyone of all backgrounds gets along - awesome actually but don't live in a bubble

Wake up