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themerlin Jun 22nd 2007 11:35 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 
From the hitchhikers guide :rofl:


"The Babel Fish is small, yellow, and simultaneously translates from one spoken language to another.

When inserted into the ear, its nutrition processes convert sound waves into brain waves, neatly crossing the language divide between any species you should happen to meet whilst travelling in space.

Some say that the evolution of the Babel fish could not have been accidental, and hence that it proves the non-existence of God. "

"Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non -existence of God. The argument goes something like this:

"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves that you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. Q.E.D."

"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

"Oh, that was easy," says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing. Most leading theologians claim that this argument is a load of dingo's kidneys, but that didn't stop Oolon Colluphid making a small fortune when he used it as the central theme of his best-selling book, Well That About Wraps It Up For God."

arkon Jun 22nd 2007 11:47 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by OzzieNurse (Post 4955861)
In my mind evolution is way more fascinating. Just looking up to the stars and thinking of all of those planets out there also has me awe struck! It is totally amazing. I do not believe in any religion or nay god unfortunately. But thats just my opinion and is probably worthless anyway. I would like to think there was a heaven and a life after death but I can't see it personally.

Well I'm a complete atheist and I do sort of believe in an afterlife or place we all go. Before you all think I'm soft here is my reason:- Quantum mechanics.
We were all born from matter expelled from suns, as a result every atom is almost certainly linked to millions of others through quantum entanglement. So this collection of atoms that make up our bodies also exists every where else, spread out throughout the cosmos. So when this biological machine dies, it's essence still exists elsewhere just not in a combined and coesleced form. So what makes us 'US' is still there, still concious, but dead if you get my drift.

arkon Jun 22nd 2007 11:49 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 4955880)
I agree about the stars and stuff. Are you allowed heaven and hell in this day and age. Surely it would be considered victimisation of bad people to unconditionally sent to hell and surely for the decision to be based on the judgement of one thing cannot be legal.

Exactly and how can a sperm and an egg with no conciousness, no ability to actually do any wrong, be then once joined together, born into original sin. We are all born sinners. I mean WTF is that all about.

arkon Jun 22nd 2007 11:59 pm

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by TraceyW (Post 4956223)
Exactly my point. Jesus did exist (probably!). So, if Jesus did exist and he was a preacher who brought about the new religion of Christianity....where the heck did he get all of his ideas from?

He probably got his ideas just from common sense and a good imagination. I't isn't too hard to make stories up, heck fiction writers do it all the time. Loony cult leaders make up religions all the time, even scientology is a made up religion. Jesus almost certainly did exist, That he was the son of god and speaking his words, that's what's no based on any evidence or facts. If I said to you lot now that I was the son of god you would think what? How do you know I'm not? Afterall are we not all the son's of god? (if one existed)

arkon Jun 23rd 2007 12:13 am

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Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 4955659)
If this debate has done anything miraculous it must be that I now need to give Arkon karma for his previous comment :lol: Hallelujah, praise the lord.

So that's my first miracle then, how many more do I need to do before you all believe I am indeed God?

Sally Jun 23rd 2007 3:06 am

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Originally Posted by arkon (Post 4957098)
Well I'm a complete atheist and I do sort of believe in an afterlife or place we all go. Before you all think I'm soft here is my reason:- Quantum mechanics.
We were all born from matter expelled from suns, as a result every atom is almost certainly linked to millions of others through quantum entanglement. So this collection of atoms that make up our bodies also exists every where else, spread out throughout the cosmos. So when this biological machine dies, it's essence still exists elsewhere just not in a combined and coesleced form. So what makes us 'US' is still there, still concious, but dead if you get my drift.

There are the same number of atoms now as when the world began - a humbling thought.

northerner Jun 23rd 2007 3:28 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by Sally (Post 4958104)
There are the same number of atoms now as when the world began - a humbling thought.

and...? I'm not particularly humbled by that TBH. Seems pretty obvious to me.

Graham

Sally Jun 23rd 2007 3:32 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by northerner (Post 4958172)
and...? I'm not particularly humbled by that TBH. Seems pretty obvious to me.

Graham

All our atoms will just go to make something or someone else, so all our arguments and differences are ulimately meaningless :)

northerner Jun 23rd 2007 3:52 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by Sally (Post 4958187)
All our atoms will just go to make something or someone else, so all our arguments and differences are ulimately meaningless :)

Well we can all go to bed happy and contented then. :)

Graham

Sally Jun 23rd 2007 3:55 am

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Originally Posted by northerner (Post 4958280)
Well we can all go to bed happy and contented then. :)

Graham

I always do :)

Sally

northerner Jun 23rd 2007 4:00 am

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Originally Posted by Sally (Post 4958296)
I always do :)

Sally

:thumbsup:

annqldau Jun 23rd 2007 9:31 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by ub40fan (Post 4956123)
Wasn't the first misktake in the bible the fact that they left out the page saying

"These characters are fictional and any resemblance to any persons living or dead is entirely conincidental"

:rofl:

Wol Jun 23rd 2007 10:40 am

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Originally Posted by arkon (Post 4957251)
So that's my first miracle then, how many more do I need to do before you all believe I am indeed God?

I'll go along with the "Arkon as God" movement. To whom do I send the cheques? (All religions seem to involve sending money to their executive branch.)

Wol Jun 23rd 2007 10:47 am

Re: The first mistake in the bible!
 

Originally Posted by Sally (Post 4958104)
There are the same number of atoms now as when the world began - a humbling thought.

You sure about that? Based on what science?

Matter and energy are two sides of the same coin and since nuclear fission has been around for a few billion years I'd be surprised!

Sally Jun 23rd 2007 10:49 am

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Originally Posted by Wol (Post 4959574)
You sure about that? Based on what science?

Matter and energy are two sides of the same coin and since nuclear fission has been around for a few billion years I'd be surprised!

I saw it on a BBC programme a while back, sorry I can't remember the name.


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