Originally Posted by northerner (Post 4955626)

Thanks Sally. Carry on 'Thinking less, breathing more' - that's a great philosophy. Just trying to play devils advocate ('scuse the pun).

Sorry if I've offended anyone for having a slightly different opinion to the masses. It's also interesting to note that whilst people here say they can't stand God botherers because they alway think they're right and you can't win an arguement with them no matter what you say - well what is everyone doing on this thread?? Exactly that I'd suggest - 'we're right, you're wrong, you're stupid for thinking any differently to us'. Brilliant.

Graham :)

PS For the record I'm not a practising Christian or anything else.

Originally Posted by Sally (Post 4955624)

Having AD proves the bible is right?

Now I've heard everything.

Originally Posted by Sally (Post 4955633)

I thought you were leaving.

Originally Posted by TraceyW (Post 4955634)

Did I say that Sally? Wind your neck in love.;)

I simply like to have an open mind to all possibilities. Is it so impossible to believe there was a preacher called Jesus? Just like I believe in evolution, I am quite capable of believing there may have been a preacher. I didn't say I believed that the bible was right at all, I actually said that I reckon the majority of the Bible is tosh.

Originally Posted by esperanza (Post 4955765)

I tried, moneypen, but i just found this!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_system

Will keep looking....

Originally Posted by OzzieNurse (Post 4955861)

In my mind evolution is way more fascinating. Just looking up to the stars and thinking of all of those planets out there also has me awe struck! It is totally amazing. I do not believe in any religion or nay god unfortunately. But thats just my opinion and is probably worthless anyway. I would like to think there was a heaven and a life after death but I can't see it personally.

Originally Posted by northerner (Post 4953126)

This isn't aimed at you JTL, but isn't it interesting how much time and money many people (who publicly call people idiots who even half believe in there being a creator) waste on buying books and reading up on the issue?!

It really interests and fascinates people.

Various people state with absolute conviction that it's all rubbish and anyone who believes it is a freak - there's absolutely no evidence etc.,, etc...

Well here's a simple, non inflamatory question - why are we in the year 2007AD? AD being Anno Domini. Surely that must mean something?

Also, as a passing comment, I personally find it far more unbelievable that we all evolved from some cosmic goo - this is what the most (apparently) intelligent scientists would have us believe!!!! WTF?! Are you for real? Ooooh yeah, a bit of goo (oh, by the way - how did the goo get there?) that developed into what we see in 2007. Oh yeah - I buy that LOL :rofl:

Sorry, this is long winded. But what annoys me is people who catagorically say it's crap and it's 'obvious' that we just happened to be and quote some book written by a scientist as 'proof'. What crap.

Graham :)

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 4955880)

I agree about the stars and stuff. Are you allowed heaven and hell in this day and age. Surely it would be considered victimisation of bad people to unconditionally sent to hell and surely for the decision to be based on the judgement of one thing cannot be legal.

Originally Posted by esperanza (Post 4955877)

I like to think that without any need for religion people still live on in two ways - one is the way that they have influenced other people during their lives, the good they have done (hopefully) and the values that they gave their children.
The other is the energy that was part of their body rejoins the world again, whether it is decomposing in the ground (sorry can't think of a nicer word than decomposing) or the ashes being scattered somewhere. Tiny bits of the person will become part of new life. I feel very comfortable with that concept.

(It's ashes to ashes dust to dust, I suppose! Maybe the bible does have some things right in it!)