Drinking and Driving
Aug 30th 2007 | 8:06 am
#31
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Re: Drinking and Driving
I am totally against it.
Too many innocent lives are lost to inconsiderate drunk drivers who then receive some shitty sentence which in no way relates to the crime of taking a life so selfishly.:curse:
Rant over
J x
Too many innocent lives are lost to inconsiderate drunk drivers who then receive some shitty sentence which in no way relates to the crime of taking a life so selfishly.:curse:
Rant over
J x
Aug 30th 2007 | 1:31 pm
#32
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Re: Drinking and Driving
Totaly agree,people should never drink and drive...well in London any-way,they should always get black cabs!
Aug 30th 2007 | 1:55 pm
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Re: Drinking and Driving
Personally I have no time for anyone who thinks it is acceptable to drink and drive.
'Oh you can have a few, I tend to drive better when I have had a few beers' A guy I knew many years ago told me.
Utter crap, and its even been said that if there is no public transport, then there is no alternative but to drink and drive.
I have heard that it goes on alot in Australia. Have any of you guys felt pressurised into drinking and driving since you moved to Australia, as in would have felt left out/silly for not going with the flow?
Would you get into the car of someone who was over the limit and/or would you grass someone up who was?
Just interested really. It is a subject close to my own heart as my brothers pal was killed by a drunken driver who got off with a suspended sentence when it should have been at least manslaughter.
Funny how its the pissed up driver rarely gets hurt when he causes an accident - its always the innocent who suffer.
Im only thinking about it after watching a programme last night on TV about careless driving. Its like speed limits, some people think they can control speed when driving through a built up area. But can they?
Makes me wonder.
Anyway, what are your opinions on this?
'Oh you can have a few, I tend to drive better when I have had a few beers' A guy I knew many years ago told me.
Utter crap, and its even been said that if there is no public transport, then there is no alternative but to drink and drive.
I have heard that it goes on alot in Australia. Have any of you guys felt pressurised into drinking and driving since you moved to Australia, as in would have felt left out/silly for not going with the flow?
Would you get into the car of someone who was over the limit and/or would you grass someone up who was?
Just interested really. It is a subject close to my own heart as my brothers pal was killed by a drunken driver who got off with a suspended sentence when it should have been at least manslaughter.
Funny how its the pissed up driver rarely gets hurt when he causes an accident - its always the innocent who suffer.
Im only thinking about it after watching a programme last night on TV about careless driving. Its like speed limits, some people think they can control speed when driving through a built up area. But can they?
Makes me wonder.
Anyway, what are your opinions on this?
People get bored with staying in one pub, but the next one could be miles away..
No i don't drink and drive, i don't go out as the pubs here in Perth are rubbish anyway.
Aug 30th 2007 | 3:16 pm
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Re: Drinking and Driving
Aug 30th 2007 | 3:43 pm
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Re: Drinking and Driving
I still think its not worth the risk and if for example a group of people were going out then one of them should remain sober.
Otherwise then Im afraid it is not worth taking a risk because we all know its never the driver that seems to get killed.
I remember a few years ago when a guy driving his BMW killed a father and his kids on xmas eve, he was over the limit.
For that, he should lose his licence forever and get a custodial sentence because the family he killed can't get their life back.
Otherwise then Im afraid it is not worth taking a risk because we all know its never the driver that seems to get killed.
I remember a few years ago when a guy driving his BMW killed a father and his kids on xmas eve, he was over the limit.
For that, he should lose his licence forever and get a custodial sentence because the family he killed can't get their life back.
Aug 30th 2007 | 6:16 pm
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Re: Drinking and Driving
everyone here agrees that drinking and driving is wrong, but how far does your responsibility lay?
for instance you've been at the pub with a bunch of friends all drinking, and one of them you know is going to drive home
do you stop them? do you shop them?
if you didn't and they had a serious accident, should you be in someway accountable?
for instance you've been at the pub with a bunch of friends all drinking, and one of them you know is going to drive home
do you stop them? do you shop them?
if you didn't and they had a serious accident, should you be in someway accountable?
Aug 30th 2007 | 6:17 pm
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Re: Drinking and Driving
Dont know if anyone saw Oprah yesterday ? It was about drink driving. There was a woman talking about what should of been a really happy occasion. Her sister was getting married and her 2 daughters were flower girls Katie was 7 & Grace was 5. After the wedding they hired a limo to take the two girls, there mother & father and there grandparents to the hotel for the night. A car hit them head on at 70 MPH ! the driver was drunk and travelling on the wrong way on the freeway. When the police arrived they found the chauffeur dead. They then saw the girls mum crawl out from the wreckage saying she had katie. She was holding the little girls severed head in her hands. The impact had caused her seatbelt to decapitate her
. The other people in the limo all suffered awful injuries.
The drunk driver walked away without a scratch. He is now appealing his sentence of 10 years as he said it was to tough !!! :curse::curse:
Nicky
. The other people in the limo all suffered awful injuries.The drunk driver walked away without a scratch. He is now appealing his sentence of 10 years as he said it was to tough !!! :curse::curse:
Nicky
Aug 30th 2007 | 7:03 pm
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Re: Drinking and Driving
everyone here agrees that drinking and driving is wrong, but how far does your responsibility lay?
for instance you've been at the pub with a bunch of friends all drinking, and one of them you know is going to drive home
do you stop them? do you shop them?
if you didn't and they had a serious accident, should you be in someway accountable?
for instance you've been at the pub with a bunch of friends all drinking, and one of them you know is going to drive home
do you stop them? do you shop them?
if you didn't and they had a serious accident, should you be in someway accountable?
Aug 30th 2007 | 7:18 pm
#39
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Re: Drinking and Driving
everyone here agrees that drinking and driving is wrong, but how far does your responsibility lay?
for instance you've been at the pub with a bunch of friends all drinking, and one of them you know is going to drive home
do you stop them? do you shop them?
if you didn't and they had a serious accident, should you be in someway accountable?
for instance you've been at the pub with a bunch of friends all drinking, and one of them you know is going to drive home
do you stop them? do you shop them?
if you didn't and they had a serious accident, should you be in someway accountable?
I have wanted to shop this a hole for some time now, but have been talked out of it on several occasions by the missus. She thinks it's none of my business and that he will get caught out eventually anyway. My argument is that, he may well kill someone in the mean time.
I am not one to be a 'grass' as such, but think that in this instance I could be forgiven?
Aug 30th 2007 | 7:32 pm
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Re: Drinking and Driving
My best friend was killed by a driver who had been drinking and smoking dope on the A23 in Sussex 3 years ago. 5 teenagers in a car all drinking and smoking smashed through the barrier and hit my friends car head on. All 5 kids teenagers and my friend and her husband along with the 2 year old son of a friend who they had taken to brighton for the day perished in that accident.
Aug 30th 2007 | 8:07 pm
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Re: Drinking and Driving
everyone here agrees that drinking and driving is wrong, but how far does your responsibility lay?
for instance you've been at the pub with a bunch of friends all drinking, and one of them you know is going to drive home
do you stop them? do you shop them?
if you didn't and they had a serious accident, should you be in someway accountable?
for instance you've been at the pub with a bunch of friends all drinking, and one of them you know is going to drive home
do you stop them? do you shop them?
if you didn't and they had a serious accident, should you be in someway accountable?
To me, it's the same question as 'how far would you go to stop a drunk person waving a loaded gun around in public'? There's no question - you do whatever it takes to stop them, for their own sake and everyone else's.
(I sound santimonious don't I?! But I can honestly say that I never have drunk-driven and never would unless it was an absolute emergency and the pros outweighed the cons. Getting home from the pub is not an absolute emergency!)
Aug 30th 2007 | 9:26 pm
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Re: Drinking and Driving
Ive grassed up someone I knew - about 20 years ago now.
He could barely walk and a few of the teens got in the car with him. He got a ban.
And I threatened to grass up a mate when he staggered to the car and took my sister with him.
He ended up walking the half a mile (yes half a mile) which was on hospital premesis.
I dont care how lonely someone is, I dont care how much they 'need' a drink. They can afford to drink, they can afford to run a car, they can get a cab or stay in.
They soon start blubbing when they are in court on a manslaughter charge.
The amount of times I have refused to get in a car with a driver under the influence, they get pissed off with you as though its you who is in the wrong.
We only get one chance to live our lives and when someone who needs a few drinks to relax and says they cant/wont get a cab puts their enjoyment over the safety of others, then why should we feel sorry for them or even try to understand?
My brothers mate had his life snuffed out by some wankwipe who was over the limit and driving on the wrong side of the road.
I hope his night of drinking was worth it.
He could barely walk and a few of the teens got in the car with him. He got a ban.
And I threatened to grass up a mate when he staggered to the car and took my sister with him.
He ended up walking the half a mile (yes half a mile) which was on hospital premesis.
I dont care how lonely someone is, I dont care how much they 'need' a drink. They can afford to drink, they can afford to run a car, they can get a cab or stay in.
They soon start blubbing when they are in court on a manslaughter charge.
The amount of times I have refused to get in a car with a driver under the influence, they get pissed off with you as though its you who is in the wrong.
We only get one chance to live our lives and when someone who needs a few drinks to relax and says they cant/wont get a cab puts their enjoyment over the safety of others, then why should we feel sorry for them or even try to understand?
My brothers mate had his life snuffed out by some wankwipe who was over the limit and driving on the wrong side of the road.
I hope his night of drinking was worth it.
Sep 2nd 2007 | 10:28 pm
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Re: Drinking and Driving
Dont know if anyone saw Oprah yesterday ? It was about drink driving. There was a woman talking about what should of been a really happy occasion. Her sister was getting married and her 2 daughters were flower girls Katie was 7 & Grace was 5. After the wedding they hired a limo to take the two girls, there mother & father and there grandparents to the hotel for the night. A car hit them head on at 70 MPH ! the driver was drunk and travelling on the wrong way on the freeway. When the police arrived they found the chauffeur dead. They then saw the girls mum crawl out from the wreckage saying she had katie. She was holding the little girls severed head in her hands. The impact had caused her seatbelt to decapitate her. The other people in the limo all suffered awful injuries.
The drunk driver walked away without a scratch. He is now appealing his sentence of 10 years as he said it was to tough !!! :curse::curse:
Nicky
. The other people in the limo all suffered awful injuries.The drunk driver walked away without a scratch. He is now appealing his sentence of 10 years as he said it was to tough !!! :curse::curse:
Nicky
How could the driver think his sentence too harsh. That is scarey. He obviously has no reemorse and could do it again when released. Surely there should be a way to lose the keys to his cells and keep him in for good.
Sep 2nd 2007 | 10:51 pm
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Re: Drinking and Driving
I totally agree that there is never any excuse to drink and drive.
I have recently returned from Australia and was shocked by the amount of our friends who find it acceptable to drink drive over there - something they would never consider doing in the UK. They couldnt understand why we were so shocked at their behaviour and considered it normal - "everyone does it" was their excuse.
Because myself and OH refused to do it we were made to feel really awkward, and on one night a friends husband had taken their 6 year old daughter out for a family/friends get together & according to my OH was absolutely bladdered. He was gonna drive her home!! How can people consider putting their own children at risk (never mind all other innocent road users)????
It took one of the other mums to tell him she wouldnt let him drive & ended up taking him home. He just wouldn't have done that in the UK - couldn't figure out what had changed him.
Personally I think anyone who drinks and drives should be treated very harshly - how many times do some people go and do it again?
I have recently returned from Australia and was shocked by the amount of our friends who find it acceptable to drink drive over there - something they would never consider doing in the UK. They couldnt understand why we were so shocked at their behaviour and considered it normal - "everyone does it" was their excuse.
Because myself and OH refused to do it we were made to feel really awkward, and on one night a friends husband had taken their 6 year old daughter out for a family/friends get together & according to my OH was absolutely bladdered. He was gonna drive her home!! How can people consider putting their own children at risk (never mind all other innocent road users)????
It took one of the other mums to tell him she wouldnt let him drive & ended up taking him home. He just wouldn't have done that in the UK - couldn't figure out what had changed him.
Personally I think anyone who drinks and drives should be treated very harshly - how many times do some people go and do it again?
