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mumomonty Oct 27th 2006 6:54 pm

Re: Disturbed
 

Originally Posted by chels
I know that you're upset, but be careful what you post. That could be classed as incitement to violence.


Remember we are mostly humans on here. We're not quite 'Gattaca' YET. Please get over it. I started the thread because of a genuine feeling of sadness for the girl and the way things 'seem' to be going. If that is incitement to violence, I don't want any part of 'your world'. Thanks.

my neices are what they are. Judged on how they perform and we have to make allowances no matter what YOU think. They are at a 'disadvantage' but are oh so lucky to be living where their 'disadavantages' (as we see them) are catered for. In many places, they would not have been. These girls are LUCKY. IMO.

iPom Oct 27th 2006 11:42 pm

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It really doesn't matter how PC or not the terminology is. Language is a means of communication between ourselves and we all understood the meaning of the OP regardless of the terminology used. That we 'got it' means that the language used was suitable, whatever social conventions people choose to stamp upon that.

I don't understand the focus on why this particular terminology is ruling this thread when the real issue is that a group of young men took hideous advantage of a person less able than most to protect herself, filmed it and distributed that film for profit.
Surely that should be getting more people inflamed than whether it's PC or not to use certain words?

phoenixinoz Oct 28th 2006 12:07 am

Re: Disturbed
 

Originally Posted by iPom
It really doesn't matter how PC or not the terminology is. Language is a means of communication between ourselves and we all understood the meaning of the OP regardless of the terminology used. That we 'got it' means that the language used was suitable, whatever social conventions people choose to stamp upon that.

I don't understand the focus on why this particular terminology is ruling this thread when the real issue is that a group of young men took hideous advantage of a person less able than most to protect herself, filmed it and distributed that film for profit.
Surely that should be getting more people inflamed than whether it's PC or not to use certain words?

You are too sensible for your own good.

It'll be the ruin of you, you know.

iPom Oct 28th 2006 12:14 am

Re: Disturbed
 

Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
You are too sensible for your own good.

It'll be the ruin of you, you know.


:D LOL. (I'm glad you understood me) :o


PS - You haven't see me drunk. ;)

phoenixinoz Oct 28th 2006 12:20 am

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Originally Posted by iPom
:D LOL. (I'm glad you understood me) :o

You made perfect sense. Some people focus on the words rather than the content / context and miss the sense and sensibility. Political correctness sometimes creates more of a divide than the problem itself.

Off track here IP....but I was in the Blue Mountains last week and I thought about you. What a FANTASTIC place you live in;)

matt-and-jenny Oct 28th 2006 12:31 am

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Originally Posted by mumomonty
If you live in Melbourne/Weribee and you know these kids or their family, do the world a favour and get a vigilante together and hunt them down and make them feel what that poor girl felt.


Originally Posted by mumomonty
Remember we are mostly humans on here. We're not quite 'Gattaca' YET. Please get over it. I started the thread because of a genuine feeling of sadness for the girl and the way things 'seem' to be going. If that is incitement to violence, I don't want any part of 'your world'. Thanks.

I also think the whole thing is unbelieveably awful.
But don't you think what you said was incitement to violence?
J.

iPom Oct 28th 2006 12:34 am

Re: Disturbed
 

Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
You made perfect sense. Some people focus on the words rather than the content / context and miss the sense and sensibility. Political correctness sometimes creates more of a divide than the problem itself.

Off track here IP....but I was in the Blue Mountains last week and I thought about you. What a FANTASTIC place you live in;)

You came here? Aw, you should have said!!! Next time, eh?
It is beautiful... Really awe inspiring. I love it. Where did you go?

iPom Oct 28th 2006 12:38 am

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Originally Posted by matt-and-jenny
I also think the whole thing is unbelieveably awful.
But don't you think what you said was incitement to violence?
J.

Oh come on! :rolleyes: Anyone in Melbourne right now, planning on vigilante responses to this thread, could you let us know please? :rolleyes:

phoenixinoz Oct 28th 2006 12:41 am

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Originally Posted by iPom
You came here? Aw, you should have said!!! Next time, eh?
It is beautiful... Really awe inspiring. I love it. Where did you go?

It is absolutely fabulous. No wonder you love it. I was sooooo inspired by how Lovely and scenic and open, fresh it was given it was only a couple of hours from central Sydney. It was bloody cold on the evening though, but lovely, clean *fresh* cold if you know what I mean. Yep, I definitely know now why you love it;)

I was on business m8....so couldn't make arrangements otherwise I would have definitely called you for a drink. I stayed at Peppers.

matt-and-jenny Oct 28th 2006 12:46 am

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Originally Posted by iPom
Oh come on! :rolleyes: Anyone in Melbourne right now, planning on vigilante responses to this thread, could you let us know please? :rolleyes:

you don't think that doesn't happen then?

iPom Oct 28th 2006 12:47 am

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Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
It is absolutely fabulous. No wonder you love it. I was sooooo inspired by how Lovely and scenic and open, fresh it was given it was only a couple of hours from central Sydney. It was bloody cold on the evening though, but lovely, clean *fresh* cold if you know what I mean. Yep, I definitely know now why you love it;)

I was on business m8....so couldn't make arrangements otherwise I would have definitely called you for a drink. I stayed at Peppers.

Yes, the air quality is lovely. The scent of the eucalypts too is fab.. and yes, uncluttered and unpopulated. Does get chilly in the evening if you're used to Sydney temps, but some nights it's damn warm. Can get up to 43 in the summer, so at the height there's not much in it between Sydney and here... but generally, it's a little cooler.
Peppers is really nice... good choice. Next time you're up, we'll have to have a drink. I should really head down to Sydney soon anyway - son wants to go on the ferry, so thought we might have a day out and do some touristy stuff ...

iPom Oct 28th 2006 12:55 am

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Originally Posted by matt-and-jenny
you don't think that doesn't happen then?

What I think, is that we'd managed to steer the thread back to the fundamental important factor, that being the demoralisation of a girl who couldn't adequately protect herself and the OP's obvious horror and disgust at the act itself.
'Incitement to violence' is 'legalese' bought about by a knee jerk (the emphasis on JERK) reaction to terrorist acts, by politicians. To use it here, on one person's post, who any intelligent person can see is deeply upset on behalf of this poor girl, as we all, mostly it appears, are, is frankly, a bit daft.
If it was so terrible, the ever so wise admin of this board would have removed it or edited it, and as they haven't, I trust their astute assessment of this post, that it's merely a personal opinion expressed, rather than an incitement for the masses in Melbourne to run out committing random acts of violence against a group of thuggish assholes who are going to 'get theirs' in jail or whatever suitable punishment is met to them, many times over anyway.


:)

phoenixinoz Oct 28th 2006 12:58 am

Re: Disturbed
 

Originally Posted by iPom
Yes, the air quality is lovely. The scent of the eucalypts too is fab.. and yes, uncluttered and unpopulated. Does get chilly in the evening if you're used to Sydney temps, but some nights it's damn warm. Can get up to 43 in the summer, so at the height there's not much in it between Sydney and here... but generally, it's a little cooler.
Peppers is really nice... good choice. Next time you're up, we'll have to have a drink. I should really head down to Sydney soon anyway - son wants to go on the ferry, so thought we might have a day out and do some touristy stuff ...

Yes, now you mention it I could smell the eucalyptus I think? I certainly could smell something *fresh* and couldn't quite put my finger on what it was;)

I can't take credit for Peppers. PA chose it. Good choice although food was a bit posh for me. Being a Yorkshire lass I'd have preferred pie and peas...LOL...only kidding, although Nouveau cuisine aint my style:o

I stayed in the city the following night too [had a meeting at HO the following day]. I couldn't get into my hotel room until after 2pm so I decided to drop my suitcase off at the hotel and pop into the city. Thought I might as well work from there ....

So there I was eating my lunch, Sydney Opera house and harbour bridge in front of me, doing conference calls. And for a moment it all seemed unreal.

We really don't know how lucky we are do we:o

iPom Oct 28th 2006 1:01 am

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Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
Yes, now you mention it I could smell the eucalyptus I think? I certainly could smell something *fresh* and couldn't quite put my finger on what it was;)

You should smell it on a really hot day - fab!


I can't take credit for Peppers. PA chose it. Good choice although food was a bit posh for me. Being a Yorkshire lass I'd have preferred pie and peas...LOL...only kidding, although Nouveau cuisine aint my style:o
I know what you mean... bit too fiddly? Come and stay at la Casa iPom next time. ;)


I stayed in the city the following night too [had a meeting at HO the following day]. I couldn't get into my hotel room until after 2pm so I decided to drop my suitcase off at the hotel and pop into the city. Thought I might as well work from there ....

So there I was eating my lunch, Sydney Opera house and harbour bridge in front of me, doing conference calls. And for a moment it all seemed unreal.

We really don't know how lucky we are do we:o
Lovely! Lucky spud, you!

No, indeed, though I think I'm lucky every day up here. :)

phoenixinoz Oct 28th 2006 1:06 am

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Originally Posted by iPom
I think I'm lucky every day up here. :)

You are indeedy;)

One thing I've noticed, whichever state I've been to there is always somewhere nice if you just take time out to look.

Blue Mountains are on my radar for any spare playtime I have in future:)


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