The Guardian is as left as the Sun is right. No point denying it. Its become a joke of a rag. Trying to sell it as centralist is beyond a laugh. Sports section is good though.

So I thought I would jump on for my does of daily bias and what greets me on the first page.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/nov/28/delay-to-treatment-of-hamid-kehazaei-before-he-died-revealed-in-leaked-files

Wow. Yes, another tragedy in the world but lowly reported to appeal to the suckers out there.

Sounds like you need a recalibration of your political meter; it's become saturated on far right ideology and no longer registers correctly.

Here you go, this should help. Admittedly it's light on 'ownership of the means of production', but as I say, left wing is not well provided for in the media realm.

Morning Star | The Peoples Daily

So according to you criminal human rights abuses that should land Dutton in a prison cell are unacceptable to report as being left wing?

See what I mean about your meter being broken?

You and the left don't get it do you. You don't get the fact that some refugees sort refuge from persecution in their own country and most are economic migrants. There is nothing wrong with economic migration, the world does it every day, but most do it through appropriate channels. Doing it under the disguise of persecution is taking away the requirements of those who really need it.

Therefore, your beloved rags should be covering the issues of many, rather than the issues of the odd one. Its designed to get you all excited, and excited you are.

I see that the next French presidential election is probably going to be between the Thatcherite Fillon and Le Pen..........

France's future is bright. France's future is right

If Le Pen gets a start the Brexit hoohah will finally be behind us and the world can move on.

If this ends up true then cat will be chomping down on the birdies:

Brexit: Legal battle over UK's single market membership - BBC News

Staying in the EEA and leaving the EU - mmmm, tasty.

In no particular order:

1 There's no such thing as a neutral paper, they all take a stance on political and social issues at some point.

2 Why does one have to only read 'neutral papers' anyway. I'd have thought we are all sensible enough to look a wide spectrum of papers on important issues and then make up our own mind - if it doesn't concur with your rightist view then we are reading the wrong papers or making the wrong judgements from the evidence available which is patronising.

3 I go an early morning walk to get a couple of paper papers (one sort of leaning to the right and one sort of leaning to the left, both Scottish). When I pick up my papers I look at the front and sometimes pick up to look inside and most of the national papers. We've been using the Guardian online for nearly 15 years to print a couple of their crosswords. Unlike a lot of the Tory papers the Guardian online is free and doesn't charge to read or print their crosswords (e.g. The Times).

4 If you take the time and in the interests of fairness and accuracy, look back and see if I only post links to the Guardian. As I said, plenty of quotes from Telegraph and Independent in particular (not Times or FT as you have to take out a subscription to read articles). You just cover your eyes and ears and say out of the Guardian nah, nah, nah, nah.

BBC - Brexit: Legal battle over UK's single market membership - BBC News

Telegraph - Theresa May faces Brexit legal challenge over single market withdrawalÂ

In case the audio of Theresa May's comments pre Brexit don't play outside of the UK she said (and the Telegraph quoted the Guardian who obtained the file):

'I think the economic arguments are clear, I think being part of a 500 million population trading bloc is significant for us because it is the UK in Europe.

I think one of the issues is that a lot of people will invest in the UK because the UK is in Europe'.

So the PM's reply to the thread title would be No.

So the gov't clowns can pull the plug on EU membership but we would still remain in the EEA?

Sounds perfect with freedom of movement staying the same for all of us, though not being part of the customs union might have an adverse affect on the price of booze (ouch!).

Boris Johnson tells ambassadors he 'supports freedom of movement'

Claims Boris Johnson told diplomats he supports freedom of movement denied as critics say voters 'treated like fools' | The Independent

Brexit means Brexit?

Boris is a clown, just like David Davis and the rest of the brexit brigade that couldn't care less about the UK, but are all in it to scoop up support from the gullible parts of society that will fall for absolutely everything that such muppets dish out.

Just waiting on the legal ruling on whether we are still in the EEA regardless of the self-harm caused by the current circus staff. At least that will greatly limit the damage.

Mate. Big picture. Forget the UK. Where do France, Germany and Holland want to be? If I was to lay a bet, the EU is dead.

Mate. Big picture. Where does RUSSIA want the UK, France, Germany and Holland to be and what political parties and movements is the Kremlin supporting to achieve its goals?

And why is it doing it? Because it wants a weak, divided Europe, with no power to unite and stand up even to an 'illusory superpower' like Russia.

Where do people want to be for a better future? Just ask the <45s where they see their future, and I bet the trend to remain in the EU is not just a British thing.

But the trend in the UK is to leave the EU.

There also appears to be that trend gaining momentum in France, Holland and Germany. If one of those go for an EUExit, I can't see there being much of an EU anymore.

No, the trend in the UK for the <45s is to remain in the EU. And the YOUNGER the population group, the GREATER the support for remaining part of the EU.

It's the geriatric ward that was senile.