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Old Jun 28th 2016, 9:58 pm
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Default Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.

Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Well did it ?

If so why or why not ?
As someone who believed in the remain vote, but loves change, I've ticked Yes to your question.

This makes things interesting and certainly gives the EU and Merks something to think about.
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Old Jun 28th 2016, 9:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Bermudashorts
We have two leadership contests to look forward to.
I can't get enthusiastic about MPs rambling on to fully paid up members about why they would make the best leader person. Whether you believe Downton Abbey is the best model for British society or we should become the next Scandinavian country every argument has been made now. There is nothing new or original to say on the matter.

This seems like the sort of contest better resolved by making people walk barefoot over broken glass or ride a very angry bull.
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Old Jun 28th 2016, 10:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Millhouse
100% the right decision. The crisis in Europe is a clear sign that it was fragile and broken.

I hope we drag out the Art. 50 for as long as possible.
It was the right thing to do but the UK still needs to suffer the EU for longer than strictly necessary? We British enjoy suffering but even we have our limits .
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Old Jun 28th 2016, 10:08 pm
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I think it was fairly bleeding obvious what she meant
Lighten up and get a lesson on spotting sarcasm eh?
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Old Jun 28th 2016, 10:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Charismatic
It was the right thing to do but the UK still needs to suffer the EU for longer than strictly necessary? We British enjoy suffering but even we have our limits .
It is not suffering the EU.

The EU is on the one suffering right now. Look at that internal mess they have on their hands.
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Originally Posted by OzTennis
Lighten up and get a lesson on spotting sarcasm eh?
Note the wink at the end perhaps.
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Note the wink at the end perhaps.
No, I concentrated on the fairly bleeding obvious what she meant bit.
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I'm not endearing myself to my family back in Australia, every time they want to talk about the Federal election this Saturday I say 'pffft'
I'm fairly surprised that it may well not be playing as big a part in the upcoming election as I first thought..... That has to help Labour a lot.


Although the last thing Australia needs right now is a hung parliament.
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Default Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.

Nope, they should have stayed, but not for the obvious reason.

I think they have played right into the hands of Brussels. I think the eurocrats want a united states of europe and thus wanted rid of the one thing they think will stop them - the UK.

The lack of real negotiation, the swift "s*d off then" - it all smells of a plan that the UK walked right into.

As such I expect two developments in the foreseeable. First, they will do something to get right up the nose of any Brit - and push them into pushing the Article 50 button soon. And then they will screw the UK by basically negotiating nothing reasonable, trying to take more money, etc. I don't think even the worst cases here will match it.

Oh, and they will push ahead very fast with binding the remaining states into a united states of europe.

So, in short, we should have stayed to prevent the eurocrats screwing up Europe, but have been ready to bail as and when we wanted to.
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Old Jun 29th 2016, 4:34 pm
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Default Re: Did the UK do the right thing in voting to leave the E.U.

Originally Posted by GarryP
Nope, they should have stayed, but not for the obvious reason.

I think they have played right into the hands of Brussels. I think the eurocrats want a united states of europe and thus wanted rid of the one thing they think will stop them - the UK.

The lack of real negotiation, the swift "s*d off then" - it all smells of a plan that the UK walked right into.

As such I expect two developments in the foreseeable. First, they will do something to get right up the nose of any Brit - and push them into pushing the Article 50 button soon. And then they will screw the UK by basically negotiating nothing reasonable, trying to take more money, etc. I don't think even the worst cases here will match it.

Oh, and they will push ahead very fast with binding the remaining states into a united states of europe.

So, in short, we should have stayed to prevent the eurocrats screwing up Europe, but have been ready to bail as and when we wanted to.
The migrant crisis proved one thing... when push comes to shove, nation states always act as nation states. The EU will push for deeper integration, and fail under a populist backlash.
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Old Jun 29th 2016, 5:21 pm
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No - it was a big mistake

but

It's done and now everyone involved needs to work together and sort out how to proceed

There is no need to rush - just get it done right
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Old Jun 29th 2016, 5:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Millhouse
The migrant crisis proved one thing... when push comes to shove, nation states always act as nation states. The EU will push for deeper integration, and fail under a populist backlash.
Yep. The EU has a very tricky game to play here. The EU was already flexing its muscle, hence Brexit.

More flexing is going to alienate more countries and its people.
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Old Jun 29th 2016, 5:30 pm
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The EU needs to be careful in trying to 'punish' the UK

UK is the 2nd largest economy in Europe and if it fails, the UK will be in trouble

They are still going to need to trade with the UK and putting tariffs on will harm their exporters - the UK is a big market for the likes of BMW, MB, Audi, Siemens, Alsthom, Airbus etc

Calm heads need to prevail
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It was a bad decision as there was no plan and a lot of misinformation. A con job.
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