might exist?

you ARE having a bubble...

These are might enough for me:

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v07n05.shtml
http://www.naturalnews.com027993_vit...pplements.html
http://www.livestrong.com/article/70...ffects-niacin/

What makes anyone think vitamins are not drugs? Of course they occur in nature, but then so does alcohol (a depressant), opium, salt, water. Take too much of any of these and they are not good for you. You need salt and water to live, but too much of either will not improve your health.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/38...red-dangerous/

Google finds all everyone wants to know.

The key is to do your own research, analyse the data and draw your own conclusions.

From the wide research and analyses that I have done on mental health treatments, I've found that pharmaceuticals are good only as relatively fast acting fixes but their terrible side effect profiles mean they can really only be used as a temporary crutch while safer long term treatments can take effect. The best treatments involve the adoption of a holistic approach including megavitamin therapies, psychiatric counselling, mindfulness and other relaxation techniques, healthy eating, exercise, and a kind, caring living environment.

Right. Tell my schizophrenic brother that he doesn't need lithium carbonate or Seroquel. All he needs is a daily megavitamin and someone to love him along with some good food and exercise.

What works for one doesn't work for another. Have seen too many friends and relatives in different depressive states (including my father, a previous partner & myself) and there is no "öne answer fits all"... and relying on "one day the vitamins will work and everything will be lovely" is not a phrase I have room in my head for these days.

Sorry to hear that. How long has he been treated for his condition?

Yes there is no one size fits all, and it doesn't work for everyone but it should be one of the first treatments attempted. If that doesn't work then move on and try something else. As the least damaging treatment, if it cures one or two out of every hundred and frees them from a life of drug dependancy and mental health problems then it's worth the try. But mainstream psychiatry doesn't even consider this treatment, and when confronted with indisputable evidence that it can and does work they go into denial mode.

Just looking back on this thread, I've put a great of time and effort into sharing my personal knowledge and experiences of this subject area, hopeful that it'll help others. Clearly it's not being well received. I shan't post on the topic again.

The key is to let qualified doctors and neuroscientists do the research and analyse the data and not to confuse using Google with scientific research.

It's your choice

What puzzles me about mental illness is the MODERNITY of all those labels that we stick on people. Our grandparents did not talk about "Depression", ADHD, Aspergers.

I am not saying that these conditions are imaginary but that we should use labels with some care and reflection.

Modern names for distinct diseases/conditions have come about with the extra knowledge gained by all the research that has been done. Far better than just generally labelling someone as mad, moron, imbecile, lunatic or naughty.

Or Australian

That's right.

After all, our grandparents' generation (well, perhaps the one before them) got around the whole label thing by shooting those who 'deserted' when they were 'suffering' with what would now be labelled as 'PTSD'.