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Re: DAYLIGHT SAVING QLD have your save
Originally Posted by Bix
(Post 5505887)
Very eloquent post Sarah :D
But seriously Bix, you are in Cairns, what difference would it make to you if you had DS. Honest question. Now think of the huge difference it would make to people in SEQueensland. So is everyone else in Queensland just being selfish and saying 'oh I don't want the hassle of changing my clocks twice a year'? JTL |
Re: DAYLIGHT SAVING QLD have your save
Cairns: Winter dark at 6 / Summer dark at 7.
I'll take the extra hour of daylight in the evening please. Could actually do something after work. |
Re: DAYLIGHT SAVING QLD have your save
Originally Posted by JackTheLad
(Post 5505876)
Good to see you've got the kids and their crayons onto this one!
The anti DS people always say 'just get up an hour earlier'. Hmmm, our daycare centre doesn't open till 7am, I can't go to work till the kids are in daycare. So thats shot. I can't get into work before 8am, and therfore don't get home before 6 (when its getting dark) Their next one is 'just change your own watch and work your own time'. Yes my government bosses would love me to leave at 3pm :confused:, even if I could get in a 7am.:rolleyes: In essence the whole arguement is about those who don't really care because they either don't work, or they work in industries such as farming where the actual human invented time is irrelevant. And the others, where time does matter, such as international business, tourism, business and anyone who has to use public transport. And for some stupid reason, those who don't care about the time, vote against the change anyway because... well... it doesn't matter to them, they don't care.:curse: Some of us do bloody care. I hate being woken up at 4:30am by the birds dawn chorus. I hate it being dark when I get home and 6:30. They've even done studies to prove it would decrease power consumption and car accidents in Queensland if we had DS. But no... It is the best example of QLD being the backward state. JTL k point taken.. But ..in essence, our working day OUTSIDE will be hotter. Our evenings will be warmer.. brighter granted, but warmer.. So mundane jobs like mowing, gardening and other outdoor activities, excluding 4x drinking competitions.. will be warmer.. Yes LIGHTER... but sunnier and warmer... so we get less comfort in the evenings to enkoy the cooler climes. Add to the fact working outside, in the sun all day, coming home, its good to have soom COOLNESS. I can see no other reason for DS other than the fact it keeps the cockroaches, and mexicans happy.. look at england and france.. still 1 hrs difference.. oh and people picking kids up from daycare, and children playing on the streets of an evening, which is a fairpoint. |
Re: DAYLIGHT SAVING QLD have your save
Originally Posted by JackTheLad
(Post 5505876)
Good to see you've got the kids and their crayons onto this one!
The anti DS people always say 'just get up an hour earlier'. Hmmm, our daycare centre doesn't open till 7am, I can't go to work till the kids are in daycare. So thats shot. I can't get into work before 8am, and therfore don't get home before 6 (when its getting dark) Their next one is 'just change your own watch and work your own time'. Yes my government bosses would love me to leave at 3pm :confused:, even if I could get in a 7am.:rolleyes: In essence the whole arguement is about those who don't really care because they either don't work, or they work in industries such as farming where the actual human invented time is irrelevant. And the others, where time does matter, such as international business, tourism, business and anyone who has to use public transport. And for some stupid reason, those who don't care about the time, vote against the change anyway because... well... it doesn't matter to them, they don't care.:curse: Some of us do bloody care. I hate being woken up at 4:30am by the birds dawn chorus. I hate it being dark when I get home and 6:30. They've even done studies to prove it would decrease power consumption and car accidents in Queensland if we had DS. But no... It is the best example of QLD being the backward state. JTL There is actually no fundamental reason to change the clock if the community can be flexible about its working hours. But perhaps its the Queensland way to start late (relative to the sun) and finish late. The periodic debates in Britain about putting the clocks onto Berlin's time zone have a similar degree of intellectual depth. |
Re: DAYLIGHT SAVING QLD have your save
Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au
(Post 5505945)
I can see no other reason for DS other than the fact it keeps the cockroaches, and mexicans happy.. look at england and france.. still 1 hrs difference..
Rationally it doesn't make any sense for the French to have sunrise around 9am in the winter but they have to make up their minds on how to deal with it. |
Re: DAYLIGHT SAVING QLD have your save
Originally Posted by JAJ
(Post 5505954)
But perhaps its the Queensland way to start late (relative to the sun) and finish late.
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Re: DAYLIGHT SAVING QLD have your save
Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au
(Post 5505964)
With Sunrise at 5:00 onwards and sunset at 6 ish in the summer.. what is your definition of late starts and late finishes?
In the U.K. it's not such a big deal as there is so much daylight in summer ... 0400 to 2000, but summer daylight is scarce at Brisbane's latitude and from the outside, it doesn't look like the working hours are set in such a way as to make sensible use of it. Do people really prefer to have their daylight before work rather than afterwards? |
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I have signed the petition and am strongly in favour of daylight savings in SE QLD.
Personally, I enjoy having enough daylight in the evenings to do things out doors. You know, walks along the beach, BBQ's etc....With the early nights here, it is a case of almost 'living for your job' from Monday to Friday, because there is no light to do anything after work! You end up coming home, eating and sitting in front of the TV! :eek: |
Re: DAYLIGHT SAVING QLD have your save
Originally Posted by JAJ
(Post 5506040)
Do people really prefer to have their daylight before work rather than afterwards?
I am slowly coming round to this ,,, for various reeasons.. I was under impression clocks would go back not forward.. Which is my HEAT debate in mornings.. which on reflection, if they go FWD gives more light at night..and cooler early mornings... fark i get confused... hmmm... am still deliberating this one |
Re: DAYLIGHT SAVING QLD have your save
I'm in favour of DS....Everyone in Queensland is bloody yawning at two in the arvo....:D
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Re: DAYLIGHT SAVING QLD have your save
Originally Posted by JackTheLad
(Post 5505876)
It is the best example of QLD being the backward state. JTL |
Re: DAYLIGHT SAVING QLD have your save
Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au
(Post 5506699)
I was under impression clocks would go back not forward..
Scary thought... that would make the birds dawn chorus start at 3:30am, about 3 hours after I go to bed :eek: JTL |
Re: DAYLIGHT SAVING QLD have your save
Originally Posted by JAJ
(Post 5505958)
France used to be on the same time zone as Britain until the Second World War when the occupying Germans changed the clocks to Berlin time and no-one has ever changed them back.
Rationally it doesn't make any sense for the French to have sunrise around 9am in the winter but they have to make up their minds on how to deal with it. Portugal has swung around in seemingly indecision since the early 90s. |
Re: DAYLIGHT SAVING QLD have your save
And we no longer need to wonder why Qld doesn't have DS :sneaky: :lol:
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Re: DAYLIGHT SAVING QLD have your save
Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au
(Post 5506699)
Thats a fair point actually, and not an angle I had considered..
I am slowly coming round to this ,,, for various reeasons.. I was under impression clocks would go back not forward.. Which is my HEAT debate in mornings.. which on reflection, if they go FWD gives more light at night..and cooler early mornings... fark i get confused... hmmm... am still deliberating this one |
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