David Hicks - should he keep book proceeds?
#95
Actually, after a pleasant walk along Bondi Beach, I've decided that your response above was an attempt at irony from my previous post.
#96









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They think McKinonn should stand trial in Britain where mental health issues are taken into account and hackers do not get 80 years. He maybe a hero for some geeks but most want proportional justice.
You can blame the Yanks for that. If they hadn't been so enthusiastic about treating him like a mass murderer, Hicks wouldn't have half the sympathy he enjoys today.
Reminds me of the Gary McKinnon case. Dude hacks into NASA & the US military, admits his guilt, and 90% of Great Britain thinks he's a legend who deserves full legal immunity.
Reminds me of the Gary McKinnon case. Dude hacks into NASA & the US military, admits his guilt, and 90% of Great Britain thinks he's a legend who deserves full legal immunity.

#97
80 years? 70 years in the absolute worst case scenario, if all 7 charges succeeded and he received the maximum of 10 years for each one. Needless to say, that's extremely unlikely.
McKinnon confessed to his crimes and was offered a 37–46 month sentence if he co-operated with authorities. He turned it down because he wanted to play the martyr card (probably got carried away with his own publicity). That's the only reason he's facing a longer term now.
So if McKinnon wants someone to blame for the fact that he could spend a few decades in prison, he should look in the mirror.
#98









Joined: Jun 2006
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Decades for hacking is not proportional. Aspergers does not give immunity and that is not what is suggested. Give me the assessments of doctors eminent is the fields of the study of ASD over any forum poster. Aspys and hacking is hardly an unknown combination.
ASD does not give you immunity but it does give other punishment options. The legal process in itself is the equivalent of prison to someone with ASD. Prison would be cruel beyond belief and akin to torture. If you knew about the mind of someone with an ASD you would know that every day life is hard enough let alone prison.
Proportionality is key and decades in prison is more what you give murderers and the Madoffs of this world. The campaigns are against extradition, not a trial.
ASD does not give you immunity but it does give other punishment options. The legal process in itself is the equivalent of prison to someone with ASD. Prison would be cruel beyond belief and akin to torture. If you knew about the mind of someone with an ASD you would know that every day life is hard enough let alone prison.
Proportionality is key and decades in prison is more what you give murderers and the Madoffs of this world. The campaigns are against extradition, not a trial.
McKinnon's alleged mental health issue is completely irrelevant. He knew what he was doing, he knew it was against the law, and he attempted to conceal his crime. Asperger's Syndrome does not provide automatic legal immunity, does not render people incapable of moral decisions, and does not constitute a valid excuse for breaking the law.
80 years? 70 years in the absolute worst case scenario, if all 7 charges succeeded and he received the maximum of 10 years for each one. Needless to say, that's extremely unlikely.
McKinnon confessed to his crimes and was offered a 37–46 month sentence if he co-operated with authorities. He turned it down because he wanted to play the martyr card (probably got carried away with his own publicity). That's the only reason he's facing a longer term now.
So if McKinnon wants someone to blame for the fact that he could spend a few decades in prison, he should look in the mirror.
80 years? 70 years in the absolute worst case scenario, if all 7 charges succeeded and he received the maximum of 10 years for each one. Needless to say, that's extremely unlikely.
McKinnon confessed to his crimes and was offered a 37–46 month sentence if he co-operated with authorities. He turned it down because he wanted to play the martyr card (probably got carried away with his own publicity). That's the only reason he's facing a longer term now.
So if McKinnon wants someone to blame for the fact that he could spend a few decades in prison, he should look in the mirror.
#100
I was speaking in general Dorothy, not in specifics. Its called common opinion, as opposed to politically correct versions of events.
#101
For me, you exist here purely as simple entertainment, like going to the zoo to watch the monkeys rooting
#102
Your opinion isn't common opinion judging by the response on the thread. You have the usual Neanderthals that have come out in agreement with your ideals, the rest simply either agree he should keep any proceeds or disagree. Not many want to "slot" him or cut off his testicles, only the ****wits, & their opinions are about as worthless as a politicians promise.
For me, you exist here purely as simple entertainment, like going to the zoo to watch the monkeys rooting
For me, you exist here purely as simple entertainment, like going to the zoo to watch the monkeys rooting

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=726904
#103
#104
You are right, it is a shame bananas are expensive, they are rich in potassium which reduces the risk of hypertension and stroke and by the look of your avatar you are headed for one. 2 NO votes now. Plenty of time, everyone is at church at the moment.
#105
1. Most normal people work and have a life outside of BE. They are too busy to post in answer to a bunch of left leaning crackpots.
2. The loonies are usually the loudest in any forum or meeting. Julia Gillard is going to fall because she listens to the loonies about climate change and illegal migrants. If she put it to a referendum she would get her backside well and truly kicked. Hicks falls in the same bucket.
3. The world of BE is a subculture, comprising of people from the UK who migrated here. This means that they don't represent Australian common opinion. In fact many of the people on this site aren't Australian and cannot vote anyway.
I think you should develop some debating skills mate. At the moment you simply abuse the poster, not the issue. It makes you look a bit stupid.

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