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- - cyclists (https://britishexpats.com/forum/barbie-92/cyclists-643620/)

DunRoaminTheUK

Dec 6th 2009 6:51 pm

Re: cyclists

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Originally Posted by kporte (Post 8150218)

Funnily enough, I am a cyclist and pay rego. Taxes too. There are dickhead cyclists, but for every one there are 25 dickhead motorists.;)

Far too conservative a figure....

MartinLuther

Dec 6th 2009 6:53 pm

Re: cyclists

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Originally Posted by Burbage (Post 8152368)

The automatic assumption that a person wearing a helmet is safer is specious, not that they think they are safer. Most people wearing a helmet will feel safer, this is not specious.

There is not enough evidence either way as to whether it is safer to wear a helmet or not. That is the problem. Therefore a law should not be put in place and people should be free to choose their own preference. If it is proved that helmets cause more injuries rather than fewer, then the Aus law will look pretty stupid.

This all sounds like the contrived arguments spouted around the introduction of compulsory motorcycle helmets and compulsory seatbelts. Apparently wearing seat belts was going to cause more accidents and deaths. Same with motorcycle helmets. Not the best predictions ever made.

To me I don't find these things intrusive unlike being forced to surrender my blood for a DNA database.

Lord_Farquar

Dec 6th 2009 6:54 pm

Re: cyclists

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Originally Posted by the big IP (Post 8150244)

i take your point but i do not see car drivers listening to i pods, blatantly not waiting for lights to go green or riding in front of a lorry to prove a point, all of which i saw this morning

So you have never seen drivers with iPods?

Alfresco

Dec 6th 2009 6:55 pm

Re: cyclists

I wasn't wearing a helmet when this happened. The DHL van didn't worry about me.

Lord_Farquar

Dec 6th 2009 6:57 pm

Re: cyclists

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Originally Posted by Petals (Post 8151024)

Runners are dangerous too, they charge around the city and are quite frightening :D The Tan comes to mind.

Not too mention being annoying as they drag themselves round the park, with their heavy breathing and generally being sweaty.

Burbage

Dec 6th 2009 7:04 pm

Re: cyclists

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Originally Posted by MartinLuther (Post 8152397)

I'm not arguing one way or the other. What I am saying is that there is good evidence for both sides of the argument, which there wasn't in the case of seat belts, I don't know anything about the motorcycle helmet argument. Under these conditions it should be voluntary rather than mandatory.

THe key is for you to understand the risks in your own mind and then make your own decision based on them. In the same way I would have no objection to volunteering my DNA fingerprint for a DNA database.

itigo

Dec 6th 2009 7:54 pm

Re: cyclists

My better half rides to work and back each day. In 6 months he's been hit twice. The first time, he was in a cycle lane, someone decided to swerve into a 45 degree parking space the other side and didn't check her mirror. He slammed into her back door, damaging himself quite badly (and severely denting her car). Unfortunately he was in shock so just walked the bike home, not getting any details. Witnesses asked if he wanted an ambulance but he refused. She on the other hand had an ambulance as she collapsed in a wibbling heap by the side of the road!

The other time, a Ute flew out of a side road, ignored the cycle lane and caught his LEFT hand! The driver was on the phone - need I say more. Better half yelled at him as he went past then the Ute slowed up and gave huge abuse back! That's why cyclists wear ipods - he couldn't hear so wasn't bothered!

mr mover

Dec 6th 2009 10:01 pm

Re: cyclists

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Originally Posted by Professional Princess (Post 8150506)

I am tempted to wear cycling shorts when I ride my bike to beef up the toe a bit.

It depends are your flaps meaty, or do you have to pump them up....mm:rofl:

MartinLuther

Dec 6th 2009 10:10 pm

Re: cyclists

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 8152403)

I wasn't wearing a helmet when this happened. The DHL van didn't worry about me.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XBId-Y6mYfg

That shows an interesting phenomenon I've noticed. Some drivers feel the need to be in "their lane" when going over sleeping policemen. I used to see this a lot in the UK. The pillows made the problem worse as they felt the need to straddle the pillow on the left hand side of the road whereas in most cases (because there was no car coming in the opposite direction) they could straddle the one in the middle of the road.

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