Britain is going to re-elect this?
Mar 6th 2010 | 2:06 pm
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Mar 6th 2010 | 6:48 pm
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Re: Britain is going to re-elect this?
The below horses mouth is closer to reality:
In The Times article: "daniel case wrote:
The Labour policy to encourage mass immigration into our country is working just as they intended it to. The idea was to ensure a huge solid base of core voters to help them remain in power.
What does this tell us about the Labour party who in their quest for power would bring these changes on their own country with complete disregard for the views of the vast majority. If Labour had declared their mass imigration policy in their 1997 election manifesto they would never have got to power and they know it. This is a clear reflection of how we, the citizens of this country, have been denied our democratic right to decide our own destiny.
The same tactic was used to denie us a referendum and we are now in a position in this country that we cannot now make any decisions on our future as all this will now be done in Brussels where we only have the power to vote for a very limited number of voices on our behalf so that our EU votes are quite worthless and democracy is denied to us for as long as we remain in this union."
The Labour policy to encourage mass immigration into our country is working just as they intended it to. The idea was to ensure a huge solid base of core voters to help them remain in power.
What does this tell us about the Labour party who in their quest for power would bring these changes on their own country with complete disregard for the views of the vast majority. If Labour had declared their mass imigration policy in their 1997 election manifesto they would never have got to power and they know it. This is a clear reflection of how we, the citizens of this country, have been denied our democratic right to decide our own destiny.
The same tactic was used to denie us a referendum and we are now in a position in this country that we cannot now make any decisions on our future as all this will now be done in Brussels where we only have the power to vote for a very limited number of voices on our behalf so that our EU votes are quite worthless and democracy is denied to us for as long as we remain in this union."
Mar 6th 2010 | 6:55 pm
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Re: Britain is going to re-elect this?
Originally Posted by In The Times article: "daniel case wrote:
The same tactic was used to denie us a referendum
Originally Posted by In The Times article: "daniel case wrote:
If Labour had declared their mass imigration policy in their 1997 election manifesto they would never have got to power and they know it. This is a clear reflection of how we, the citizens of this country, have been denied our democratic right to decide our own destiny.
Mar 6th 2010 | 7:41 pm
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Re: Britain is going to re-elect this?
The voters need to take some account for their own actions rather than crying foul. Immigration peaked before the 2005 election. The voters know how the first past the post system works...they still returned Labour. Although I'm sure this was entirely down to their secret plan??
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ell-Brown.html
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/colum...ver.6106878.jp
Mar 6th 2010 | 7:51 pm
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Mar 6th 2010 | 7:54 pm
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That was a different secret plan. The spin-doctoring/concealment/distortion of the truth has had a huge influence on election outcomes. It's only been in the last five years or so that the mask has finally slipped and many people have realised just how much they've been deceived and treated with contempt. The promise to hold a EU referendum which was withdrawn after Labour was returned to power is a prime example.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ell-Brown.html
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/colum...ver.6106878.jp
Mar 6th 2010 | 7:57 pm
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Re: Britain is going to re-elect this?
That was a different secret plan. The spin-doctoring/concealment/distortion of the truth has had a huge influence on election outcomes. It's only been in the last five years or so that the mask has finally slipped and many people have realised just how much they've been deceived and treated with contempt. The promise to hold a EU referendum which was withdrawn after Labour was returned to power is a prime example.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ell-Brown.html
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/colum...ver.6106878.jp
Tories believe they can do what they want because is bred in their psyche from a young age. You can throw any false promises at any party to suit your own agenda but I know which one I'd rather have.
Mar 6th 2010 | 8:03 pm
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Re: Britain is going to re-elect this?
That was a different secret plan. The spin-doctoring/concealment/distortion of the truth has had a huge influence on election outcomes. It's only been in the last five years or so that the mask has finally slipped and many people have realised just how much they've been deceived and treated with contempt.
the Tories started the whole spin doctor thing.
have you never heard of Bernard Ingham?...Thatcher's spin doctor and master of deception
Mar 6th 2010 | 11:06 pm
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Come on. The tory party has been a bastion of truth and good behaviour. Tories believe they can do what they want because is bred in their psyche from a young age. You can throw any false promises at any party to suit your own agenda but I know which one I'd rather have.
Tories believe they can do what they want because is bred in their psyche from a young age. You can throw any false promises at any party to suit your own agenda but I know which one I'd rather have.
Mar 7th 2010 | 2:17 am
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Re: Britain is going to re-elect this?
It's healthy to be suspicious of a governments motives rather than blindly accept what they do.
I think it's also poor to make a personal attack on a poster on this board rather than simply disagreeing in a respectful and polite manner.
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Mar 7th 2010 | 2:53 am
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Re: Britain is going to re-elect this?
Some do think that, but some also think he is dangerous.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle7043949.ece
Mar 7th 2010 | 6:58 am
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