Britain gets raped. Again!!!
May 24th 2011 | 7:13 pm
#91
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Re: Britain gets raped. Again!!!
It does create an industry around the poverty with a lot of self serving NGOs,from wealthy western countries, doing rather well out of others misery.
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May 24th 2011 | 7:18 pm
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Re: Britain gets raped. Again!!!
I wasn't asking for links, as I was asking which of the things he is quoted as saying you take issue with. His comments seem to me about Corus and JLR, and it's turned into 'British managers'. If that was his opinion are you saying he shouldn't have said it...doesn't sound like you.
May 24th 2011 | 7:36 pm
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Re: Britain gets raped. Again!!!
I wasn't asking for links, as I was asking which of the things he is quoted as saying you take issue with. His comments seem to me about Corus and JLR, and it's turned into 'British managers'. If that was his opinion are you saying he shouldn't have said it...doesn't sound like you.
I disagree with anyone who is manipulating global carbon credits at the expense of British workers, then complaining about the quality of British management.
If Ratan Tata starts behaving in an ethical manner in the performance of his own duties and those of his company (including wages and OH&S issues in Indian steelworks) then he is entitled to comment.
May 24th 2011 | 7:44 pm
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Re: Britain gets raped. Again!!!
you didnt make it clear what you were asking for.
I disagree with anyone who is manipulating global carbon credits at the expense of British workers, then complaining about the quality of British management.
If Ratan Tata starts behaving in an ethical manner in the performance of his own duties and those of his company (including wages and OH&S issues in Indian steelworks) then he is entitled to comment.
I disagree with anyone who is manipulating global carbon credits at the expense of British workers, then complaining about the quality of British management.
If Ratan Tata starts behaving in an ethical manner in the performance of his own duties and those of his company (including wages and OH&S issues in Indian steelworks) then he is entitled to comment.
May 24th 2011 | 7:51 pm
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Re: Britain gets raped. Again!!!
Seems to be not so easy for those that purchased there.
Nightmare scenario indeed. Things must have really declined over the years.
May 24th 2011 | 7:55 pm
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May 24th 2011 | 8:02 pm
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Re: Britain gets raped. Again!!!
Isn't it just. I do venture in the Goa section from time to time. What appears to be a common desire among a lot of the expat folk there is to get out.
Seems to be not so easy for those that purchased there.
Nightmare scenario indeed. Things must have really declined over the years.
Seems to be not so easy for those that purchased there.
Nightmare scenario indeed. Things must have really declined over the years.
3rd world is often nice to visit, but not to live.
May 24th 2011 | 8:34 pm
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Re: Britain gets raped. Again!!!
Since 1971, the EU has had rules ensuring that exporters from developing countries pay lower duties on some or all of what they sell to the EU. This gives them vital access to EU markets contributing to the growth of their economies.
This scheme is known as the "Generalised System of Preferences" and has allowed Tata to sell steel into the EU region at prices lower than it can be made in Europe.
The UK is now going to get doubly shafted by Tata. With its steel industry uncompetitive because of GSP “aid†given to counties like India, it then finds its steelworks owned by an Indian company, who then close them down, claim the carbon credits and increase production at the Indian factories, using the credits to produce cheap steel form inefficient polluting factories.
If we shut off the GSP Tata would be forced to keep the UK plants in operation.
This scheme is known as the "Generalised System of Preferences" and has allowed Tata to sell steel into the EU region at prices lower than it can be made in Europe.
The UK is now going to get doubly shafted by Tata. With its steel industry uncompetitive because of GSP “aid†given to counties like India, it then finds its steelworks owned by an Indian company, who then close them down, claim the carbon credits and increase production at the Indian factories, using the credits to produce cheap steel form inefficient polluting factories.
If we shut off the GSP Tata would be forced to keep the UK plants in operation.
May 25th 2011 | 1:38 am
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Re: Britain gets raped. Again!!!
Since 1971, the EU has had rules ensuring that exporters from developing countries pay lower duties on some or all of what they sell to the EU. This gives them vital access to EU markets contributing to the growth of their economies.
This scheme is known as the "Generalised System of Preferences" and has allowed Tata to sell steel into the EU region at prices lower than it can be made in Europe.
The UK is now going to get doubly shafted by Tata. With its steel industry uncompetitive because of GSP “aid†given to counties like India, it then finds its steelworks owned by an Indian company, who then close them down, claim the carbon credits and increase production at the Indian factories, using the credits to produce cheap steel form inefficient polluting factories.
If we shut off the GSP Tata would be forced to keep the UK plants in operation.
This scheme is known as the "Generalised System of Preferences" and has allowed Tata to sell steel into the EU region at prices lower than it can be made in Europe.
The UK is now going to get doubly shafted by Tata. With its steel industry uncompetitive because of GSP “aid†given to counties like India, it then finds its steelworks owned by an Indian company, who then close them down, claim the carbon credits and increase production at the Indian factories, using the credits to produce cheap steel form inefficient polluting factories.
If we shut off the GSP Tata would be forced to keep the UK plants in operation.
May 25th 2011 | 5:09 am
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Re: Britain gets raped. Again!!!
Whilst I never thought it would happen, I find myself somewhat agreeing with Slaphead in that India does not now seem to be a country that continues to need UK aid or preferential treatment.
May 25th 2011 | 12:18 pm
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Re: Britain gets raped. Again!!!
I realize that the EU is the big boogyman for many people, but the GSP system comes under the WTO, operates in many countries not just within the EU, and the UK was/is a supporter of the GSP concept of using trade to alleviate poverty.
Whilst I never thought it would happen, I find myself somewhat agreeing with Slaphead in that India does not now seem to be a country that continues to need UK aid or preferential treatment.
Whilst I never thought it would happen, I find myself somewhat agreeing with Slaphead in that India does not now seem to be a country that continues to need UK aid or preferential treatment.
Out if interest, take a look at the video at the bottom of my signature.
Each and every day 11,000 children die before reaching their 5th birthday. That’s around 500 an hour. 2000 died since I had my breakfast. Many of them are in India.
India should be pressured to accept its social responsibilities. That includes trade tariffs, with the resulting funds handed to the poor of India.
May 25th 2011 | 6:14 pm
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Re: Britain gets raped. Again!!!
150 years? You might need to read up your history of India mate. The East India Company established its first permanent factory in Bengal in 1612.
I could fill this site, with a list 1000 pages long of what the British did for India, but it always ends up like a Monty Python sketch. If you want some examples though, I am happy to provide them.
It was a mutually beneficial arrangement, and Britain got a lot out of it too. But what Britain got out of it ended in 1947. We left a functioning society and single country behind, which was far different to what we had found.
When I was in Bombay in 1982 the water pipes were the same ones the British had laid over a hundred years before. I know this because there were water shortages in Bombay - the British had not shown the foresight to estimate the future size of Bombay and had only provided them with 14 inch water mains.
I could fill this site, with a list 1000 pages long of what the British did for India, but it always ends up like a Monty Python sketch. If you want some examples though, I am happy to provide them.
It was a mutually beneficial arrangement, and Britain got a lot out of it too. But what Britain got out of it ended in 1947. We left a functioning society and single country behind, which was far different to what we had found.
When I was in Bombay in 1982 the water pipes were the same ones the British had laid over a hundred years before. I know this because there were water shortages in Bombay - the British had not shown the foresight to estimate the future size of Bombay and had only provided them with 14 inch water mains.
First thing, you are not a British.
Second thing, you need to look into history. Who told you British left functioning society and single country behind. Don't you know the "divide and rule" methodology of British rulers? Don't you know the aftermath of 1947 partition?
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May 25th 2011 | 6:17 pm
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May 25th 2011 | 6:46 pm
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Re: Britain gets raped. Again!!!
First thing, you are not a British.
Second thing, you need to look into history. Who told you British left functioning society and single country behind. Don't you know the "divide and rule" methodology of British rulers? Don't you know the aftermath of 1947 partition.
