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soapy© Nov 21st 2008 11:03 am

A bit of URGENT help needed!
 
A bit of background first.
Pauline has had the dreaded phone call and has booked tickets to go back to Glasgow on Monday.
Heres the problem
A friend has just called and told us that she might need an Australia passport to return.
We became citizens on Australia day this year and have never bought an aussie passport
The visa in her British passport is a PR one and our friend thinks it might be overridden now we are citizens. :eek:
Is this true?

soapy

Sally Simpson Nov 21st 2008 11:22 am

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Originally Posted by soapy (Post 6997787)
A bit of background first.
Pauline has had the dreaded phone call and has booked tickets to go back to Glasgow on Monday.
Heres the problem
A friend has just called and told us that she might need an Australia passport to return.
We became citizens on Australia day this year and have never bought an aussie passport
The visa in her British passport is a PR one and our friend thinks it might be overridden now we are citizens. :eek:
Is this true?

soapy

Can't help with the passport but just wanted to say sincere condolences. We had the same kind of call yesterday morning so can fully empathise.
My thoughts are with you both.

northernbird Nov 21st 2008 11:23 am

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Originally Posted by soapy (Post 6997787)
A bit of background first.
Pauline has had the dreaded phone call and has booked tickets to go back to Glasgow on Monday.
Heres the problem
A friend has just called and told us that she might need an Australia passport to return.
We became citizens on Australia day this year and have never bought an aussie passport
The visa in her British passport is a PR one and our friend thinks it might be overridden now we are citizens. :eek:
Is this true?

soapy

Firstly I am sorry to hear that Pauline has had THE call, something we all dread.

From what I read on here I believe it is correct but that is only what I read on here. however I have heard of people travelling back in with their citizenship certificates and explaining the circumstances.

Good luck Soaps.

soapy© Nov 21st 2008 11:27 am

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Originally Posted by sallyclaire (Post 6997823)
Can't help with the passport but just wanted to say sincere condolences. We had the same kind of call yesterday morning so can fully empathise.
My thoughts are with you both.

Thanks pal, its the only thing we hate about being here:(
sincere condolences to you guys too. thats the third brit ive hear get the call yesterday:(

soapy© Nov 21st 2008 11:28 am

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 6997825)
Firstly I am sorry to hear that Pauline has had THE call, something we all dread.

From what I read on here I believe it is correct but that is only what I read on here. however I have heard of people travelling back in with their citizenship certificates and explaining the circumstances.

Good luck Soaps.

this is what i was hoping. we have left it a bit late as pauline is working today, so we have no chance of getting an aussie passport in time.

Sally Simpson Nov 21st 2008 11:28 am

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Originally Posted by soapy (Post 6997834)
Thanks pal, its the only thing we hate about being here:(
sincere condolences to you guys too. thats the third brit ive hear get the call yesterday:(

Oh dear!:( It is certainly very hard to be such a long way from it all.

northernbird Nov 21st 2008 11:29 am

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Originally Posted by soapy (Post 6997836)
this is what i was hoping. we have left it a bit late as pauline is working today, so we have no chance of getting an aussie passport in time.

She could also take everything with her and try and get the Aussie High Commission to sort something out while she is in the UK. I am sure under the circumstances they will be able to do something.

soapy© Nov 21st 2008 11:32 am

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 6997842)
She could also take everything with her and try and get the Aussie High Commission to sort something out while she is in the UK. I am sure under the circumstances they will be able to do something.

thanks for that

i have just had replies from wendy and st georges girl with great info. i will post it here in case this happens to someone else

soapy© Nov 21st 2008 11:33 am

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from wendy

Yes, your visa is cancelled when you become citizens, so it won't be valid (although I have heard of some getting back in with it - bit risky though!)

How long is she going for? Maybe she could apply for a passport from there?

I have heard of people getting back in with their certs only, but it will cause troubles for her as she will have to go to the airport to check in to the plane. She won't be able to book in online, and it really will depend on the person she gets on the day as to whether it will be straight forward or not.

Alternatively, see if you can get one rushed through and post it across for her? https://www.passports.gov.au/Web/Forms/EntryPoint.aspx

Wendy Nov 21st 2008 11:37 am

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Originally Posted by soapy (Post 6997851)
from wendy

Yes, your visa is cancelled when you become citizens, so it won't be valid (although I have heard of some getting back in with it - bit risky though!)

How long is she going for? Maybe she could apply for a passport from there?

I have heard of people getting back in with their certs only, but it will cause troubles for her as she will have to go to the airport to check in to the plane. She won't be able to book in online, and it really will depend on the person she gets on the day as to whether it will be straight forward or not.

Alternatively, see if you can get one rushed through and post it across for her? https://www.passports.gov.au/Web/Forms/EntryPoint.aspx


Ooo, I was just gonna post that here too! :D

soapy© Nov 21st 2008 11:37 am

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from st georges girl

Found this for you Soapy. I am very sorry to hear you've had 'that' news matey.

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/931.pdf

soapy© Nov 21st 2008 11:38 am

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Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 6997859)
Ooo, I was just gonna post that here too! :D

thanks pal. i just thought it would be great for others too;)
im too quick for ya :p

---Haggisman--- Nov 21st 2008 2:49 pm

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Just read your post mate,pass on our condolences to Pauline tell her to have a safe flight back and you take it easy too.

Haggis

Sam Nov 21st 2008 3:05 pm

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condolences to you and Pauline Soapy


Didn't Moneypen travel as a citizen but with no Aus passport recently???

Give her a shout and see how she did it

soapy© Nov 21st 2008 4:31 pm

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Originally Posted by ---Haggisman--- (Post 6998106)
Just read your post mate,pass on our condolences to Pauline tell her to have a safe flight back and you take it easy too.

Haggis

thanks pal:)

soapy© Nov 21st 2008 4:32 pm

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 6998118)
condolences to you and Pauline Soapy


Didn't Moneypen travel as a citizen but with no Aus passport recently???

Give her a shout and see how she did it

yeh, bix thought that too

if we nip to brissie tomorrow they might give her an aussie passport;)
so they say

herrchook Nov 21st 2008 6:05 pm

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Originally Posted by soapy (Post 6998217)
yeh, bix thought that too

if we nip to brissie tomorrow they might give her an aussie passport;)
so they say

Good luck with that guys.

So sorry to hear your news, I'm sure all this farting around over a passport is not what you need right now. A lesson to us all, I guess...to make sure our paperwork is up to date as we never know when we might need it urgently. Your in my thoughts.

soapy© Nov 21st 2008 6:07 pm

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thanks pal.
y'know pauline said to me that we should get the passports as soon as. but as usual i was too mean and said we might never need them. i forgot that this will happen to us a lot over the next few years.
thanks for the kind words pal:)

Pollyana Nov 21st 2008 6:14 pm

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Originally Posted by soapy (Post 6998321)
thanks pal.
y'know pauline said to me that we should get the passports as soon as. but as usual i was too mean and said we might never need them. i forgot that this will happen to us a lot over the next few years.
thanks for the kind words pal:)

Moneypen travelled to the UK just after becoming a citizen - she took the paperwork with her and had no probs getting back in without the passport - drop her a pm Soapy mate, and give Pauline a hug from me :)

moneypenny20 Nov 21st 2008 7:49 pm

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Only me :D Sorry about the news :( but Pauline should be fine travelling with her UK passport as long as she also carries a certified copy of her citizenship certificate. I had so many conversations with both DIAC and the Passport Office and all of them (bar one bitch) said there was absolutely no reason why I should have any aggro. DIAC told me (more than once and all different people) that whilst you're now a Citizen, the visa in the UK passport hasn't actually expired (the final date on it that you had to be in the country by) and therefore becomes an RRV on it's own.

If you have more than 48 working hours available you can get an Aussie Passport in Brisbane - you just ring them up, explain the circumstances and they will give you an emergency appointment and get you the passport inside 48 hours.

However if you can get her on the plane prior to that and don't have time for the passport or the finding a JP for the certifying of the certificate, just take the original and keep it close (ie don't lose it) and she should have no bother.

The only other thing she will need to do, is when filling in the arrival form coming back on the plane, complete it as a Citizen and as soon as she gets to passport control, hand over the passport and the form and explain why she filled it in as a citizen and tell them she has her certificate with her. She will be taken to one side and they will take a copy of her certificate and send her on her way.

Hope that helps mate and send Pauline a hug.

mandyp Nov 21st 2008 8:23 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6998421)
Only me :D Sorry about the news :( but Pauline should be fine travelling with her UK passport as long as she also carries a certified copy of her citizenship certificate. I had so many conversations with both DIAC and the Passport Office and all of them (bar one bitch) said there was absolutely no reason why I should have any aggro. DIAC told me (more than once and all different people) that whilst you're now a Citizen, the visa in the UK passport hasn't actually expired (the final date on it that you had to be in the country by) and therefore becomes an RRV on it's own.

If you have more than 48 working hours available you can get an Aussie Passport in Brisbane - you just ring them up, explain the circumstances and they will give you an emergency appointment and get you the passport inside 48 hours.

However if you can get her on the plane prior to that and don't have time for the passport or the finding a JP for the certifying of the certificate, just take the original and keep it close (ie don't lose it) and she should have no bother.

The only other thing she will need to do, is when filling in the arrival form coming back on the plane, complete it as a Citizen and as soon as she gets to passport control, hand over the passport and the form and explain why she filled it in as a citizen and tell them she has her certificate with her. She will be taken to one side and they will take a copy of her certificate and send her on her way.

Hope that helps mate and send Pauline a hug.

Hi soapy, just wanted to send our condolences to you n yours. . .just shows how many miles away we all are at times like this. . .take care.

Mandy

framac67 Nov 21st 2008 8:37 pm

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Sorry about the news mate. Gie Pauline a big hug fae me n Angie. Good luck.:thumbup:

Katsmajics other half !!! Nov 21st 2008 8:50 pm

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Originally Posted by soapy (Post 6997836)
this is what i was hoping. we have left it a bit late as pauline is working today, so we have no chance of getting an aussie passport in time.

My mrs ( katsmajic ) had THE CALL last saturday, about her nephew she flew back from Adelaide to Heathrow this morning it really hits home hoe ar away you are from your friends and family, but we said today on the way to the airport we said how much Australia feels like home.

Condolences to everyone at this time.

soapy© Nov 21st 2008 8:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 6998324)
Moneypen travelled to the UK just after becoming a citizen - she took the paperwork with her and had no probs getting back in without the passport - drop her a pm Soapy mate, and give Pauline a hug from me :)

thanks polly. as usual pen has all the answers:lol:

soapy© Nov 21st 2008 8:54 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6998421)
Only me :D Sorry about the news :( but Pauline should be fine travelling with her UK passport as long as she also carries a certified copy of her citizenship certificate. I had so many conversations with both DIAC and the Passport Office and all of them (bar one bitch) said there was absolutely no reason why I should have any aggro. DIAC told me (more than once and all different people) that whilst you're now a Citizen, the visa in the UK passport hasn't actually expired (the final date on it that you had to be in the country by) and therefore becomes an RRV on it's own.

If you have more than 48 working hours available you can get an Aussie Passport in Brisbane - you just ring them up, explain the circumstances and they will give you an emergency appointment and get you the passport inside 48 hours.

However if you can get her on the plane prior to that and don't have time for the passport or the finding a JP for the certifying of the certificate, just take the original and keep it close (ie don't lose it) and she should have no bother.

The only other thing she will need to do, is when filling in the arrival form coming back on the plane, complete it as a Citizen and as soon as she gets to passport control, hand over the passport and the form and explain why she filled it in as a citizen and tell them she has her certificate with her. She will be taken to one side and they will take a copy of her certificate and send her on her way.

Hope that helps mate and send Pauline a hug.

thanks again pen. it has made me think though.
i wonder how many new aussies knew this?
might be worth a sticky of some sort?

soapy© Nov 21st 2008 8:56 pm

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Originally Posted by mandyp (Post 6998463)
Hi soapy, just wanted to send our condolences to you n yours. . .just shows how many miles away we all are at times like this. . .take care.

Mandy

your right mandy, this is when it hits me:(
ill let pauline know you posted pal:)

soapy© Nov 21st 2008 8:57 pm

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Originally Posted by framac67 (Post 6998492)
Sorry about the news mate. Gie Pauline a big hug fae me n Angie. Good luck.:thumbup:

will do pal, thanks

oh and whos gawnae look efter me fur two weeks....................... perty time!

soapy© Nov 21st 2008 8:57 pm

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Originally Posted by Katsmajics other half !!! (Post 6998514)
My mrs ( katsmajic ) had THE CALL last saturday, about her nephew she flew back from Adelaide to Heathrow this morning it really hits home hoe ar away you are from your friends and family, but we said today on the way to the airport we said how much Australia feels like home.

Condolences to everyone at this time.

very well said and thank you:)

soapy© Nov 21st 2008 9:01 pm

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oh and Pauline just told me to thank all who have sent karma (you all know who you are)
very nice touch guys and very touching words:)

moneypenny20 Nov 21st 2008 9:19 pm

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Originally Posted by soapy (Post 6998523)
thanks again pen. it has made me think though.
i wonder how many new aussies knew this?
might be worth a sticky of some sort?

In an ideal world we'd all have the money to get the passports immediately and also never have the dreaded call. But even in my world that doesn't happen so yes, it would help the info being in the useful tips bit :D

Gibbo Nov 21st 2008 9:25 pm

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I truely feel for Pauline. Both of my inlaws died at a time when there was no way that we could get back. I was lucky enough to be in Scotland when my father died but had the 'flu and couldn't fly when my mother died. I hope this is a lesson for all migrants - immediately you get citizenship apply for your passport, you never know when you will need it. I sincerely hope that Pauline has no hassels, things are traumatic enough just now.

PAP01 Nov 21st 2008 10:46 pm

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Originally Posted by soapy (Post 6998528)
will do pal, thanks

oh and whos gawnae look efter me fur two weeks....................... perty time!

you two weeks on your tod, well next week,p**s up on the Saturday,golf Sunday, late for work on monday, no pants washed by friday.:rofl::rofl: Talk soon mate;)

Pollyana Nov 22nd 2008 6:02 am

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Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6998579)
In an ideal world we'd all have the money to get the passports immediately and also never have the dreaded call. But even in my world that doesn't happen so yes, it would help the info being in the useful tips bit :D

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showp...09&postcount=4 :)

soapy© Nov 22nd 2008 7:30 am

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Originally Posted by Gibbo (Post 6998589)
I truely feel for Pauline. Both of my inlaws died at a time when there was no way that we could get back. I was lucky enough to be in Scotland when my father died but had the 'flu and couldn't fly when my mother died. I hope this is a lesson for all migrants - immediately you get citizenship apply for your passport, you never know when you will need it. I sincerely hope that Pauline has no hassels, things are traumatic enough just now.

cheers for that Gibbo. its something i will make sure i tell every person becoming a new aussie;)

soapy© Nov 22nd 2008 7:32 am

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 6999513)

nice one polly;)

soapy© Nov 22nd 2008 7:42 am

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Originally Posted by PAP01 (Post 6998753)
you two weeks on your tod, well next week,p**s up on the Saturday,golf Sunday, late for work on monday, no pants washed by friday.:rofl::rofl: Talk soon mate;)

you know me too bloody well:lol:

Dorothy Nov 22nd 2008 10:21 am

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Sorry to hear this Soapy. It really does bring home how far away you are from family at times like this.

quoll Nov 22nd 2008 11:32 am

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So sorry to hear your bad news, Soapy. I hope all goes well for Pauline and her family at this stressful time.

Yup the Tyranny of Distance surely is right.

Carbery Nov 22nd 2008 2:44 pm

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Our thoughts are with Pauline & you.

Katsmajics other half !!! Nov 22nd 2008 7:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 6999937)
Sorry to hear this Soapy. It really does bring home how far away you are from family at times like this.

A friend i made over here says that there is an insurance you can take out for 130bux a year for instances like this, he says ts guarentees you a flight within 48 hrs of " the call " not usre what else you get but might be worth looking into.


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