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Old Jun 28th 2009, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by James516
Implanon is indeed great. But you are wrong about nurse prescribing - a specialist nurse in an appropriate clinic setting is likely to see many times more patients with a particular disease than a GP or junior doctor will, and so their knowledge of the disease and appropriate interventions is likely to make them make better prescribing decisions.
An 18 year old I know chose Implanon. Only she recently found out she was 12 weeks pregnant and when they x-rayed to check the Implanon was in place they found there was no Implanon in there at all She's now had a very traumatic experience (termination) and is suing the doctor.

However, obviously all contraceptives come with risk, nothing is failsafe.
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Hmmmm. You don't need an X-ray to check an Implanon is in place - you can feel it.
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An 18 year old I know chose Implanon. Only she recently found out she was 12 weeks pregnant and when they x-rayed to check the Implanon was in place they found there was no Implanon in there at all She's now had a very traumatic experience (termination) and is suing the doctor.

However, obviously all contraceptives come with risk, nothing is failsafe.
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Well aren't you lucky because many others have had screaming babies and have had to stop breastfeeding.
Well i wasn't that lucky as i found breast feeding difficult & only managed to do it for few weeks but that's hardly the point, the point is i was given the mini- pill to use as a contraceptive while i was breastfeeding!
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Hmmmm. You don't need an X-ray to check an Implanon is in place - you can feel it.
Perhaps they xrayed the girl because they couldnt feel it in place.
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Originally Posted by James516
Implanon is indeed great. But you are wrong about nurse prescribing - a specialist nurse in an appropriate clinic setting is likely to see many times more patients with a particular disease than a GP or junior doctor will, and so their knowledge of the disease and appropriate interventions is likely to make them make better prescribing decisions.
I was referring to the INITIAL prescription for CONTRACEPTION. Not for any other situation
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Hmmmm. You don't need an X-ray to check an Implanon is in place - you can feel it.
Exactly.
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An 18 year old I know chose Implanon. Only she recently found out she was 12 weeks pregnant and when they x-rayed to check the Implanon was in place they found there was no Implanon in there at all She's now had a very traumatic experience (termination) and is suing the doctor.

However, obviously all contraceptives come with risk, nothing is failsafe.
O my! Poor girl! That is definitely a medico-legal issue. (If she were truely anti-abortion, she could have sought full costs to raise the child til it became 18!!)

There are two reasons for "implanon failure". The device never being fitted, and the patient already being pregnant or not using additional contraception for the first few days if it wasn't fitted on days 1 - 5 of the cycle.

So, this wasn't a true contraception failure. The person inserting the device failed to fit it correctly. There is a standard process, at the end of which the dr/nurse feels that the device is in the skin, and then offer (almost forces!) that the patient to feel the device, so that they both know that it's there.

I suspect that all patients who received the implanon by the same person will need to be reviewed.
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Hmmmm. You don't need an X-ray to check an Implanon is in place - you can feel it.
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Perhaps they xrayed the girl because they couldnt feel it in place.
That's exactly right PP. I am fairly sure it was an xray, but maybe it was some other method like ultrasound. Anyway, they couldn't work out where the hell the thing had gone and then after investigation they found it wasn't there at all.

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O my! Poor girl! That is definitely a medico-legal issue. (If she were truely anti-abortion, she could have sought full costs to raise the child til it became 18!!)

There are two reasons for "implanon failure". The device never being fitted, and the patient already being pregnant or not using additional contraception for the first few days if it wasn't fitted on days 1 - 5 of the cycle.

So, this wasn't a true contraception failure. The person inserting the device failed to fit it correctly. There is a standard process, at the end of which the dr/nurse feels that the device is in the skin, and then offer (almost forces!) that the patient to feel the device, so that they both know that it's there.

I suspect that all patients who received the implanon by the same person will need to be reviewed.
Yes you're right Ozzidoc, it wasn't a true contraception failure but a proceedural one. I felt so bad for her though, not a nice thing to have to go through. She has a loving long term boyfriend who said he would stand by her etc but they were literally just about to go off to work the snow season and they totally were not ready for a child. She's gutted though.
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Decided to dip my toe back in the water again and see what's hanging in here now my exams for this semester are over!

How's you? Get that passport sorted lol?!!!!
Well welcome back!

Congrats on finishing the exams....hope it all went well!!

I'm slowly recovering from my passport traumas, but missing seeing Tracy in the Post Office every single f****** day!!

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Well welcome back!

Congrats on finishing the exams....hope it all went well!!

I'm slowly recovering from my passport traumas, but missing seeing Tracy in the Post Office every single f****** day!!

it arrives soon!
?Thanks, me too. Get results next week.

Sounds like a complete nightmare. Hope you gave Tracy a bit of sweet talk, can work wonders in getting these things sped up
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