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Old Jan 24th 2014, 10:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Molly Coddle
The Daily Mail is as bad of the rest of them. Like I said and will continue to say. If you want to know how Britain is fairing economics wise, ask the people. They will give you the answer.
I do ask the people I know,and they give a completely different story to the one you give.

As I said....you are in for an almighty shock if you don't get a bit more realistic
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Originally Posted by bcworld
It depends if the newspaper articles are simple opinion pieces or quote easily referenced unadulterated statistics...these are the latter. What I found interesting on a quick google was that the reporting was the same across the newspapers favoured by both BE's 'far right' and 'socialist' factions...so what propaganda is being peddled and by whom? Even the DM which never misses an opportunity to run the country down reports the same.
BE has a far right faction? Who? Where?

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It's not the UK I know.....and not the one my wife just returned from this morning.....she is now keener than ever to return for good.

She obviously didn't see the bits you claim are everywhere....I didn't last year when I was over either.....or when I Lived there for most of of my life

It is certainly no worse than here in Brisbane
And I'm sure very nice cashed up holidays you had, both

Originally Posted by Grayling
I do ask the people I know,and they give a completely different story to the one you give.

As I said....you are in for an almighty shock if you don't get a bit more realistic
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Old Jan 24th 2014, 10:48 pm
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BE has a far right faction? Who? Where?
If you agree that BE has a 'socialist' faction (I notice there was no question about that)...then it's also got a 'far right' faction...such is the propensity for exaggeration!
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Originally Posted by bcworld
If you agree that BE has a 'socialist' faction (I notice there was no question about that)...then it's also got a 'far right' faction...such is the propensity for exaggeration!
What? Exaggeration on BE? That never happens!

Something I notice about many of the British Expats in Australia is it has refugees from both Thatcher's and Browns Britain. Only the ones who could stomach both ends of the spectrum stayed put in aptly-named Blighty.
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Originally Posted by paulry
Something I notice about many of the British Expats in Australia is it has refugees from both Thatcher's and Browns Britain. Only the ones who could stomach both ends of the spectrum stayed put in aptly-named Blighty.
Really? I don't think many of them left because they hated the place...the vast majority did it for positive reasons in my experience.
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Originally Posted by bcworld
Really? I don't think many of them left because they hated the place...the vast majority did it for positive reasons in my experience.
I've often heard it said that lots of British shop stewards emigrated to Australia to escape Thatcher's Britain. I've even met a few who claim they were Thatcher's refugees. Others escaped (and still do so today) from the Britain which Blair and Brown permanently transformed.
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Originally Posted by Grayling
It's not the UK I know.....and not the one my wife just returned from this morning.....she is now keener than ever to return for good.

She obviously didn't see the bits you claim are everywhere....I didn't last year when I was over either.....or when I Lived there for most of of my life

It is certainly no worse than here in Brisbane
Certainly not the Britain we are seeing on a day to day basis, we must all be in denial I guess
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Originally Posted by Molly Coddle
Crime rates have been dropping for years? What do you call years Chris? 3? 5? 10? Really? Prove it.

You don't half talk some crap Chris,

You my friend are one of those people ( and there's plenty of them) who have what I call 'The Gordon Brown Effect' it means you are completely in-denial about the state of the country and can't or doesn't want to handle the truth.

It wont help you, you know, being like that, these problems wont ever go away.

I bet you in 10 years time, you end up back in Australia.
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Originally Posted by chris955
Certainly not the Britain we are seeing on a day to day basis, we must all be in denial I guess
I can suggest some postcodes to visit if you want to see it in the UK.

Not all areas of the UK are that bad, just as not all areas of the UK are utopia
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Originally Posted by Grayling
I do ask the people I know,and they give a completely different story to the one you give.

As I said....you are in for an almighty shock if you don't get a bit more realistic
Yes we meet and talk to people all the time, I have to assume we are talking to the wrong ones or the right ones
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Originally Posted by old.sparkles
I can suggest some postcodes to visit if you want to see it in the UK.

Not all areas of the UK are that bad, just as not all areas of the UK are utopia
Exactly spot on, thank you.
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Old Jan 25th 2014, 2:31 am
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Originally Posted by chris955
we must all be in denial I guess
You, in particular, certainly are
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Originally Posted by Molly Coddle
Crime rates have been dropping for years? What do you call years Chris? 3? 5? 10? Really? Prove it.

You don't half talk some crap Chris,
So Chris's opinion is 'crap' and yet yours is 'fact'?

Wasn't the news this week full of how crime is at it's lowest level for 30+ years? Not sure why your 'facts' are the exact opposite of all the statistics? Perhaps they're not actually 'facts' after all, and just your opinion? Which you're more than entitled to air, but stating it as fact is disingenuous at best.

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So yeah, I stand by exactly what I said before, the country is in a mess

Like it or not, agree with me or not, it’s a fact!
No, again, it's your opinion. You don't seem to know the difference between your opinion and a fact, which is most peculiar.

My opinion is that the UK isn't in a mess. But I'm lucky enough to live in a lovely part of it, and don't recognise your description of it. Particularly your sweeping statements about all UK schools being awful, which is odd as my children's school is beyond amazing.

You are welcome to your opinion, but please stop with the sweeping statements about the UK. Unless you've lived in every village/town/city/county, you can't state as one of your 'facts' that the whole of the UK is the same.

I'm not normally as Aussie forum goer, but I was gobsmacked at your generalisations and the aggression you've shown to anybody with a different view of the UK to you. I wish you the best of luck in Oz and hope you find what you're looking for there.

Originally Posted by bcworld
As far what you say about crime...which you claim as fact...I just see a classic case of 'in my day you could leave your front door open'!
I still do, and my car unlocked.
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
So Chris's opinion is 'crap' and yet yours is 'fact'?

Wasn't the news this week full of how crime is at it's lowest level for 30+ years? Not sure why your 'facts' are the exact opposite of all the statistics? Perhaps they're not actually 'facts' after all, and just your opinion? Which you're more than entitled to air, but stating it as fact is disingenuous at best.



No, again, it's your opinion. You don't seem to know the difference between your opinion and a fact, which is most peculiar.

My opinion is that the UK isn't in a mess. But I'm lucky enough to live in a lovely part of it, and don't recognise your description of it. Particularly your sweeping statements about all UK schools being awful, which is odd as my children's school is beyond amazing.

You are welcome to your opinion, but please stop with the sweeping statements about the UK. Unless you've lived in every village/town/city/county, you can't state as one of your 'facts' that the whole of the UK is the same.

I'm not normally as Aussie forum goer, but I was gobsmacked at your generalisations and the aggression you've shown to anybody with a different view of the UK to you. I wish you the best of luck in Oz and hope you find what you're looking for there.



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no, very
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