The Australian Flag
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Re: The Australian Flag
The flag has been banned from this venue.
This is offensive to the good people out there who are proud to be Australian and wish to fly the Australian flag. Why assume the majority of flag wavers are going to be anti social when in fact it's usually the minority who cause all the problem?
Once again emotion means nonsense decision making.
Instead of managing the few, lets penalise the majority.
PC madness
This is offensive to the good people out there who are proud to be Australian and wish to fly the Australian flag. Why assume the majority of flag wavers are going to be anti social when in fact it's usually the minority who cause all the problem?
Once again emotion means nonsense decision making.
Instead of managing the few, lets penalise the majority.
PC madness
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Re: The Australian Flag
A countries flag is a national symbol of their country. If some immigrants in Australia get offended by seeing Ozzie flags being paraded perhaps they should bugger off to a country where their choice of flag is flown.
As a migrant I believe that you dont belong here if you are unwilling to have some pride in the countries flag.
As a migrant I believe that you dont belong here if you are unwilling to have some pride in the countries flag.
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Re: The Australian Flag
A countries flag is a national symbol of their country. If some immigrants in Australia get offended by seeing Ozzie flags being paraded perhaps they should bugger off to a country where their choice of flag is flown.
As a migrant I believe that you dont belong here if you are unwilling to have some pride in the countries flag.
As a migrant I believe that you dont belong here if you are unwilling to have some pride in the countries flag.
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Re: The Australian Flag
Its fine to have a culturaly diverse country but if you are a migrant living in Australia and enjoying life here shouldnt you have some pride in seeing the nations flag flying ?
If Australian's are told to not carry their own flag in their own country where are they supposed to wave it ? Only outside of Australia ?
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Re: The Australian Flag
Bit of an odd one really, isn't it?
I mean, how can the waving of a flag be aggressive in itself? Surely for such an act to become intimidatory it must be accompanied by some other actions/behaviour which is aggressive.
It seems to me that the organisers are going after the wrong end of the problem. Surely it makes more sense to target those likely to cause trouble and to come down hard on those that go on to cause trouble rather than banning an inanimate object??!!
I mean, how can the waving of a flag be aggressive in itself? Surely for such an act to become intimidatory it must be accompanied by some other actions/behaviour which is aggressive.
It seems to me that the organisers are going after the wrong end of the problem. Surely it makes more sense to target those likely to cause trouble and to come down hard on those that go on to cause trouble rather than banning an inanimate object??!!
#23
Re: The Australian Flag
But...
The problem, as I see it, is that the Australian flag still has a Union Jack in the corner.
This allows the racist element use it out of context - in that some of those with British or Irish ancestry believe themselves to be real Aussies, and those of different backgrounds somehow lesser or non-authentic. (Lets not get too complicated - way back when, the whole of Ireland was British).
This is similar to the BNP using the Union Jack in their slogans/literature, and so on.
When South Africa chaged its flag, it removed the Union Jack, the Orange Free State and the Transavaal mini-flags, as they were associated with its white European past. To become a forward-looking "rainbow nation", it adopted a flag that was more representative of the people who lived there right then. Which makes sense, though I'm still not sure about the aesthetics of the design, but anyhow...
I can't see these ridiculous situations going away until this country gets its act together, becomes a republic, appoints a president and gets a new flag.
Big.
The problem, as I see it, is that the Australian flag still has a Union Jack in the corner.
This allows the racist element use it out of context - in that some of those with British or Irish ancestry believe themselves to be real Aussies, and those of different backgrounds somehow lesser or non-authentic. (Lets not get too complicated - way back when, the whole of Ireland was British).
This is similar to the BNP using the Union Jack in their slogans/literature, and so on.
When South Africa chaged its flag, it removed the Union Jack, the Orange Free State and the Transavaal mini-flags, as they were associated with its white European past. To become a forward-looking "rainbow nation", it adopted a flag that was more representative of the people who lived there right then. Which makes sense, though I'm still not sure about the aesthetics of the design, but anyhow...
I can't see these ridiculous situations going away until this country gets its act together, becomes a republic, appoints a president and gets a new flag.
Big.
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Re: The Australian Flag
It is simply a marketing excercise, and it has worked very well. The Big Day Out have had fantastic publicity out of this.
#25
Re: The Australian Flag
Now there'll be lots of flag waving and lots of talk about how Aussies aren't going to be dicatated to (whether by the PC mob or anyone else). Pawns in a bigger game.