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Old Jul 28th 2012 | 6:44 am
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Old Jul 28th 2012 | 8:25 am
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Luckily complacency is not what guides ANON
Even the worlds various Governments are worried about being spied on. It's how one stays out of the security spotlight is the key to your own net security.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/26000...yberspace.html

Looks like the "Agencies" are on another recruitement drive.... to not keep up locally is pure folly.
 
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Even the worlds various Governments are worried about being spied on. It's how one stays out of the security spotlight is the key to your own net security.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/26000...yberspace.html

Looks like the "Agencies" are on another recruitement drive.... to not keep up locally is pure folly.
I've never understood why instead of persecuting people like Gary McKinnon they don't just offer them really well-paid jobs to defend their systems and point out all the holes.
 
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I've never understood why instead of persecuting people like Gary McKinnon they don't just offer them really well-paid jobs to defend their systems and point out all the holes.
I think they do in a lot of cases, just now and again they like to make an example. That article is the First time I've seen a report of a 11 YO hacker though.

I suppose one of the few bright sides here in Aus, is the Aus government is relatively transparent about it's snooping activities. Not quite as bad yet as the governement spying on you in London and working out exactly where you are, what you drink, who you meet, 90 pct of the time. CCTV is far more pervasive. I guess we'll get there eventually here in Aus though.

I expect everyone knows that all mobile phones can be used as listening devices ? Only sure way they cant is to take the battery out.

We've gone way beyond 1984.... it's when they can work out your thoughts that we'll all need to be really worried.
 
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I think they do in a lot of cases, just now and again they like to make an example. That article is the First time I've seen a report of a 11 YO hacker though.

I suppose one of the few bright sides here in Aus, is the Aus government is relatively transparent about it's snooping activities. Not quite as bad yet as the governement spying on you in London and working out exactly where you are, what you drink, who you meet, 90 pct of the time. CCTV is far more pervasive. I guess we'll get there eventually here in Aus though.

I expect everyone knows that all mobile phones can be used as listening devices ? Only sure way they cant is to take the battery out.

We've gone way beyond 1984.... it's when they can work out your thoughts that we'll all need to be really worried.
Reminds me of a case where a bloke was done for littering. He had dropped something on the other side of London at night and they had followed him on his entire journey across one of the world's biggest cities - tube, walking on the roads, bus, etc., until he reached his house. Then they sent him the fine.

What amazes me is that no one in the process of stalking him realized what they were doing was causing fifty thousand times more damage to society than a piece of litter.
 
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Originally Posted by Zen10
Reminds me of a case where a bloke was done for littering. He had dropped something on the other side of London at night and they had followed him on his entire journey across one of the world's biggest cities - tube, walking on the roads, bus, etc., until he reached his house. Then they sent him the fine.

What amazes me is that no one in the process of stalking him realized what they were doing was causing fifty thousand times more damage to society than a piece of litter.
Worst thing about that is, the old "If you doing nothing wrong, you've got nothing to worry about argument" could be serverely tested. We're very likely headed politically for draconian times, given the worlds dire financial situation.
 
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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Worst thing about that is, the old "If you doing nothing wrong, you've got nothing to worry about argument" could be serverely tested. We're very likely headed politically for draconian times, given the worlds dire financial situation.
This is my concern. I see a confluence of forces here - unprecedented financial hard times, and a surveillance society that is not too far from becoming a budding police state because of - as you say here - a general lazy acceptance by wider society.
 
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Originally Posted by chris955
How is that relevant to Australia ?
Because law enforcement isn't a regional concern - it's global. So Australia, as a partner in such endeavours, is getting itself up to the same standard as many other "western" nations with respect to record keeping.
 

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