Beoz

Yep. Though as Zulu pointed out, religion is their reason behind their actions where in Africa its power. The truth be told religion is probably masking the true reason which is power.

spouse of scouse

That poor child. What sort of man will he grow to be? Absolutely sickening.

Wol

Careful, AZ - You're talking about the religion of peace here.

Wol

Badge: >>Remember though - cultural relativity. By the same token, a Muslim finds Westerners easily corrupted and malleable - look how we imbibe drugs every day - booze, for example. They find that astonishing.<<

Many many only find it astonishing in public: they are very happy imbibing when they ar not in view. Remember the controversy about the Bahrain causeway?

I can remember years ago seeing a dozen or more Saudi Royal family getting on a flight all decked out in the white robes: after airborne they all changed into Saville Row suits. I asked one why they didn't fly on their national airline since it was on the same route: his reply was simply to hold up his champagne flute and say "Cheers"!

JoeBloggs80

Vice News had a guy who hung out with IS for 3 weeks and filmed what they got up to:

https://news.vice.com/video/the-islamic-state-part-1

Pretty fascinating and mental.

ozzieeagle

I dont in anyway want to Trivialise this, but they remind me of 70's football, hooligans on steroids with access to weapons. It'll be very easy to recruit thousands to their "perceived" cause in other words.... Out of those thousands there will be a fair few hundred total total nutters.


The weapons are the key to this... the flow needs to be stopped.

chris955

To put it bluntly that kid is f*****. He cant possibly have any worthwhile future.

papilon

A fair prtion of the weapons came from western governments, they armed the Iraqi army who ran off at the first sign of trouble. Also the arms that western goverments supplied to syrian rebels ended up in ISIS hands? Now there is talk of arming the Kurds, in a few years these arms could be being used against the Turks as they try to establish a greater Kurdistan and so it goes on and on.

The US spent over 3 trillion dollars in Iraq and had over 250,000 troops at one stage in Iraq and this is what tney achieved. The worst thing is Britain followed them and also spend an obscene amount of money at a time of great economic stress. Just imagine if that money had been spent on R&D, infrastructure, etc.

paulry

I agree. It's the behavior of psychopaths.

That poor kid doesn't stand a chance. He'll become just as evil as the rest of them.

paulry

We don't see any peaceful ones protesting about the atrocities that are being committed in their name.

ozzieeagle

Crazy is all I can say.... Now it seems these people seem to have found a key that is latent in a lot of mankind, the desire to fight and make war. They are on an adrenaline/commaradarie crazed high and the supposed "Cause" is just a cover for what is present in a lot of us.... You just have to find the right circumstance to bring it out.

Could you see how much they were enjoying themselves !!!


The West and actually if we dont the East will, had better find a way of nullifying these weapons and their source.

JoeBloggs80

Think its a reasonable analogy, the psychology behind it is the same: Young men who want to be a part of something and trying to find meaning from an otherwise shitty life.

The real evil f**kers are the leaders who preach the hate and send those guys to blow themselves up.

Wol

Except that many - eg., the 9-11 crowd - are middle class, educated and not unintelligent. It's just that they are born into, or accept, a pre-medieval, barbaric, savage religion. It doesn't matter how you spin it, Islam is an abhorrent concept. The funny-peculiar thing about it is that it says that individual "preachers" can interpret their koran in any way they wish - so "moderates" are reluctant in the main to say anything against them, and Catholicism is just the opposite, saying that the word of one guy in a dress must be obeyed!

Religion of all kinds is weird.

JoeBloggs80

So you've identified the problem.

Whats the answer?

Beoz

Ultimately the US are using this 3 trillion to invest in their own future anyway - Oil.