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Aussie F1 Driver Mark Webber Calls Australia a Nanny State
Mar 29th 2010, 12:31 pm
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)My fines here were on the motorways 130 in a 110 zone, and 80 in a 70 zone.
My view, from my experiences, is that both countries do the same thing.
Parking tickets are one thing that I did get annoyed with once.
In Sydney they opened a new car park at Darling Harbour some years ago, and changed the parking restrictions in the nearby industrial area, where I always parked during the evenings.
I, and a few hundred others, got a parking ticket at 1:00am for parking in an area that no activity was occurring, other than parking cars.
Mar 29th 2010, 12:31 pm
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Re: Aussie F1 Driver Mark Webber Calls Australia a Nanny State
Should hooning be made legal? Well that all depends on what hooning is. It is open to debate. Going around a corner too fast could be hooning. Doing a burnout is hooning but burnounts have never killed anybody as there is no speed involved and especially in the hands of a professional F1 driver. Can an F1 driver be a hoon? His skill level at handling a high performannce motor vehicle far surpasses that of the masses. Were his actions dangerous? Could he have killed anybody?
The current hoon legislation is a bit of a knee jerk response if you ask me. Especially when you are getting 90 year old hoons.
Mar 29th 2010, 12:34 pm
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Lewis Hamilton had his car impounded after he was caught doing burnouts.
it's certainly a bloody nanny state when it comes to what we can do. Lewis Hamilton has found out very quickly," Webber said
it's certainly a bloody nanny state when it comes to what we can do. Lewis Hamilton has found out very quickly," Webber said
Mar 29th 2010, 12:36 pm
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Re: Aussie F1 Driver Mark Webber Calls Australia a Nanny State
I am actually a believer that excessive speed is a killer. What I have a problem with is the blatant revenue raising exercise that all of the state police services adopt.
I have a work colleague, who is an absolute moron and irresponsible driver. On Friday night he was stopped by police because his car full of idiot mates brought the attention of the police on them by honking the horn. They didn't see the cop car parked on the other side of the road. They pulled him over and called another unit in to breathalise him which took 20 mins form the moment he was pulled over. He blew 0.065 and they let him off without even a caution. He is now walking around the office as smug as anything and proud that he managed to sweet talk the copper into letting him off.
Zero tollerance, my arse!
Would they have let him off if he'd been doing the same percentage over the speed limit? The cynical side of me says probably not!
I have a work colleague, who is an absolute moron and irresponsible driver. On Friday night he was stopped by police because his car full of idiot mates brought the attention of the police on them by honking the horn. They didn't see the cop car parked on the other side of the road. They pulled him over and called another unit in to breathalise him which took 20 mins form the moment he was pulled over. He blew 0.065 and they let him off without even a caution. He is now walking around the office as smug as anything and proud that he managed to sweet talk the copper into letting him off.
Zero tollerance, my arse!
Would they have let him off if he'd been doing the same percentage over the speed limit? The cynical side of me says probably not!
Mar 29th 2010, 12:37 pm
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Mar 29th 2010, 12:40 pm
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Re: Aussie F1 Driver Mark Webber Calls Australia a Nanny State
I agree with you on this. the interesting thing is my own experiences. My speeding fines in the UK were 33 in a 30 zone, with the road being 2 lanes each way, nice and open. !! (same road each time )
My fines here were on the motorways 130 in a 110 zone, and 80 in a 70 zone.
My view, from my experiences, is that both countries do the same thing.
)My fines here were on the motorways 130 in a 110 zone, and 80 in a 70 zone.
My view, from my experiences, is that both countries do the same thing.
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Mar 29th 2010, 12:40 pm
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The problem comes when a role model does something wrong, and is allowed to be treated differently, is allowed to break the law and get away with it.
If that did happen, I am not sure it would send the right message. ie: he did burnouts but never hurt anyone therefore it is OK.
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Deputy Police Commissioner Ken Lay says the state's road toll is distressingly high and Webber should know better.
"That's after a weekend [which left] six dead, four of them attributed to speeding," he said.
"It's really disappointing. Mark Webber's in a unique position where he's got the ability to influence our road users. He's missed an opportunity. He's probably undermined our message.
"That's after a weekend [which left] six dead, four of them attributed to speeding," he said.
"It's really disappointing. Mark Webber's in a unique position where he's got the ability to influence our road users. He's missed an opportunity. He's probably undermined our message.
Mar 29th 2010, 12:44 pm
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Re: Aussie F1 Driver Mark Webber Calls Australia a Nanny State
yeah but it took 20 mins for him to be tested meaning he was probably even over that when they stopped him
Mar 29th 2010, 12:45 pm
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Not all the speed limits are higher in the UK. The urban speed limits are slower.
Mar 29th 2010, 12:45 pm
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Re: Aussie F1 Driver Mark Webber Calls Australia a Nanny State
Deputy Police Commissioner Ken Lay says the state's road toll is distressingly high and Webber should know better.
"That's after a weekend [which left] six dead, four of them attributed to speeding," he said.
"It's really disappointing. Mark Webber's in a unique position where he's got the ability to influence our road users. He's missed an opportunity. He's probably undermined our message."
I am on a roll now. Where (Mr Deputy Police Commissioner) did Mark Webber say he endorsed speeding? I though his comments were mainly to do with parking and other traffic rules. Also, I thought Hamilton was done for doing burnouts not excessive speed?
"That's after a weekend [which left] six dead, four of them attributed to speeding," he said.
"It's really disappointing. Mark Webber's in a unique position where he's got the ability to influence our road users. He's missed an opportunity. He's probably undermined our message."
I am on a roll now. Where (Mr Deputy Police Commissioner) did Mark Webber say he endorsed speeding? I though his comments were mainly to do with parking and other traffic rules. Also, I thought Hamilton was done for doing burnouts not excessive speed?
Mar 29th 2010, 12:52 pm
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Motorways - UK = 2 kph higher
UK: 70 mph (112kph)
Aus: 68.75 mph 110kph
Built up areas UK = 12 kph lower
UK 30 mph (48 kph)
Aus 37.5 mph (60 kph)
Housing Estates UK = 2 kph lower
UK 30 mph (48 kph)
Aus 31.25 mph (50 kph)
UK: 70 mph (112kph)
Aus: 68.75 mph 110kph
Built up areas UK = 12 kph lower
UK 30 mph (48 kph)
Aus 37.5 mph (60 kph)
Housing Estates UK = 2 kph lower
UK 30 mph (48 kph)
Aus 31.25 mph (50 kph)
Mar 29th 2010, 12:53 pm
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Re: Aussie F1 Driver Mark Webber Calls Australia a Nanny State
Mar 29th 2010, 12:54 pm
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Re: Aussie F1 Driver Mark Webber Calls Australia a Nanny State
I agree. I feel I am also a very safe driver, I used to drive like him when I was younger, so he and I should be excluded from these laws ?
The problem comes when a role model does something wrong, and is allowed to be treated differently, is allowed to break the law and get away with it.
If that did happen, I am not sure it would send the right message. ie: he did burnouts but never hurt anyone therefore it is OK.
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The problem comes when a role model does something wrong, and is allowed to be treated differently, is allowed to break the law and get away with it.
If that did happen, I am not sure it would send the right message. ie: he did burnouts but never hurt anyone therefore it is OK.
Comment from the Police:
Funny thing though I don't remember Tim Pallas calling Ken Lay a dick-head earlier this year when he was nabbed for speeding, despite being the public face of the road safety campaign. Or maybe he did and I missed it.
