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This is an interestng issue. The heart might suggest that one should commit to a single nation, or at the very least two nations as a dual, but the head dicates that the more nationalities one legally holds, the more opportunity there will be for oneself and one's children. Citizenship should be renounced in only the most extreme circumstances.

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Interesting theory but no I won't be renouncing my Citizenship of my BIRTH country. If I had to choose between Australian citizenship and that of my birth country I would choose my birth country hands down. I still cannot understand why someone would want to be a citizen of a country they despise even though it gives them options.

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I will have dual while I can have dual and will look at single when forced to.

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Why would you ever be forced to give up dual?

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Hopefully won't but the day may come.

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Maybe, but doubtful. Australia has piddled around with the concept of being "only Australian" before, but it's not a great idea because large numbers of immigrants, if forced to change could choose to retain their original passports. Canada has recently been looking at the idea of forcing people to choose. I don't think it's a good idea.

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Think USA went down that route didn't it?

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Don't know about in the past, but dual is allowed now for sure. Forcing people to have just one passport is something I can maybe see happening in the future as all our governments gradually lose their sense of humour because of the GWOT, but there's nothing to be gained from doing it other than forcing people to give up one, and I believe the majority of people will lean towards retaining that of their birth nation.

Of course losing a passport is not losing one's nationality though. So you would retain that, but then you would be in the bizarre situation of having to queue up to get into Britain on an Australian passport while those with EU nation passports would be in the fast stream.

Don't you just love politics?

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I've never said I despised OZ. That's your assumption. I don't even think Arkon despises the place (he now has OZ citizenship).

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No, you've just used every word but.

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Can't you get the hang of quoting? Bloody Queenslanders!

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Couldn't be arsed. You knew what I was talking about. Bloody Brisbanite:p

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Should have called you a Welshman as you're almost there! :sneaky:

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Does citizenship really tell you what a person thinks of a country? There are too many who take it simply for their own convenience.

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If people had to make an honest assessment, I'm sure their overriding impression, on the balance of probabilities, would be that you probably do.

To be fair - it might apply to Arkon more though.

When this sort of subject matter comes up, he has been know to forthrightly maintain that he has basically has little time for the place in any shape of form. He's been asked to comment on other aspects or invited to share or see a moderate view and even then he's been known to dismiss it. It's rare that he shares any liking of any aspect althought he did quite like bits of Canberra and Melbourne!

Anyway!

BTW, regarding some of your theories of Australia and materialism and the ills of it's society, I think you'll find that I've read some of the ''same'' books you have and agree with every word you say, but I would state it is a Western world thing, and yet not all Australia is equally effected by it to the extent you claim.

I would say the problems are rife in some parts of Australia where the structure allows.