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Re: Alcoholic? How do you know?
Originally Posted by Toppa
I have no doubt that you are correct. That health authorities ( or anyone else) uses it though, has nothing to do with whether it is an effective tool or not.
Design a better one....may be worth a PHD ;) G |
Re: Alcoholic? How do you know?
Originally Posted by Toppa
A truly sad situation but if your aunt can get him into therapy (not alcohol rehab. He knows his situation and has no doubt "heard it all before") things might improve. Nobody gets to this point without having deep seated issues that have never been dealt with. He needs to discuss this with a clinical psychologist(who does therapy) in my opinion. A qualified psychotherapist might also be of help here. CBT (Cognitive behaviour therapy; what Grayling does) could also be quite useful. It works on identifying thoughts (which come before behaviours) and changing them and thereby changing behaviour.
Sady Toppa, he's been there and done all that. It seems to be a hopeless situation. My aunt's given up I think. Other than locking him into a room and pushing his meals under the door, she can't stop him. I am sure he has very deep seated issues about lots in his life... He's 60 and he looks like he's 80. He can hardly walk, his liver's packing up (he tells everyone that his liver function tests are those of a healthy man and his doc is amazed :rolleyes: ) Just this last few weeks he's back in hospital because he's got an ulcer on his leg and it just won't heal. It's a tragic way to go. |
Re: Alcoholic? How do you know?
Originally Posted by Grayling
The outcomes for all approaches to problem drinking are very poor.
The AA model is is very poor as well. G So I hear. :( |
Re: Alcoholic? How do you know?
Originally Posted by Grayling
The outcomes for all approaches to problem drinking are very poor.
The AA model is is very poor as well. G AA works for some but for many it simply is too simplistic and doesn't meet them at their real point of need. |
Re: Alcoholic? How do you know?
Originally Posted by Toppa
It is a difficult problem to deal with because it is so entrenched by the time it becomes life threatening. And someone that caught up in an addiction can't just change their behaviour if the root causes aren't addressed and techniques to cope put into place.
AA works for some but for many it simply is too simplistic and doesn't meet them at their real point of need. If some people on here actually drink as much as they seem to or claim to (judging by what they post) then there are a few on here who seriously need to look at their drinking :eek: G |
Re: Alcoholic? How do you know?
Originally Posted by iPom
Sady Toppa, he's been there and done all that. It seems to be a hopeless situation. My aunt's given up I think. Other than locking him into a room and pushing his meals under the door, she can't stop him. I am sure he has very deep seated issues about lots in his life... He's 60 and he looks like he's 80. He can hardly walk, his liver's packing up (he tells everyone that his liver function tests are those of a healthy man and his doc is amazed :rolleyes: ) Just this last few weeks he's back in hospital because he's got an ulcer on his leg and it just won't heal. It's a tragic way to go.
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Re: Alcoholic? How do you know?
Originally Posted by Grayling
Well there you go
Design a better one....may be worth a PHD ;) G |
Re: Alcoholic? How do you know?
Originally Posted by Grayling
The scary bit is that most people harming themselves with Alcohol are not even aware that they are doing it and often find out too late.
If some people on here actually drink as much as they seem to or claim to (judging by what they post) then there are a few on here who seriously need to look at their drinking :eek: G |
Re: Alcoholic? How do you know?
Originally Posted by Toppa
I hope most who make such boasts are just doing the "ego" thing. But as the western world is immersed in an alcohol culture, who knows? And I'm a drinker too lol!
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Re: Alcoholic? How do you know?
Originally Posted by Grayling
The scary bit is that most people harming themselves with Alcohol are not even aware that they are doing it and often find out too late.
If some people on here actually drink as much as they seem to or claim to (judging by what they post) then there are a few on here who seriously need to look at their drinking :eek: G |
Re: Alcoholic? How do you know?
Originally Posted by Mrs JFW
That could be me then. :eek:
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Re: Alcoholic? How do you know?
A simple way to test yourself - give up alcohol for 7 days.
Don't just say 'Easy!'. Just do it. |
Re: Alcoholic? How do you know?
Originally Posted by lesleys
A simple way to test yourself - give up alcohol for 7 days.
Don't just say 'Easy!'. Just do it. I consider myself a social drinker anyway....just sometimes I get a bit carried away! :D Jackie |
Re: Alcoholic? How do you know?
Trust me it is no fun living with an alcoholic - my mum has been one for all of my life - Im dead proud of her though as she hasn`t had a drink in about 3 years now (she gave up aged 71 :rolleyes: bit bloody late but never mind)I used to go round the house when I was a kid looking through all her hiding places, then when I found a bottle or a can I`d pour it down the sink - she used to go ballistic when she found out :D It was a bit like having 2 mums - the nice normal one and the nasty/unconcious/sorry for herself one. I think the hardest thing for me was the fact I could never bring mates round to the house and I was like the adult and she was the child. I never understood how my dad managed to live with it for all those years!! :rolleyes:
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Re: Alcoholic? How do you know?
Originally Posted by Mrs JFW
Ok I'll do it! Got meds next week so that will give me even more incentive.
I consider myself a social drinker anyway....just sometimes I get a bit carried away! :D Jackie |
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