asher

I lived on shooters hill rd in Woolwich just off the common it was a great place to live lots of parks for the kids my flat only got done over once, I have some very fond memories of sarf London.

papilon

Sorry OE but for me Crystal Palace is not Sarf London but South London as is the OP's beloved Clapham.

ozzieeagle

Try saying that to this 120K + South London Audience

http://www.cpfc.org/forums/

BTW the following is really worth looking at for South Londoners.... Old Pics of Croydon and the surrounding area.


http://www.cpfc.org/forums/showthrea...t=south+london

BadgeIsBack

Not really. I think you're being naive. It can be used, and is used. You're not being the IT helpdesk city council bloke type again are ya?

That's not to say that a happening area can be vibrant in the way you mean.

iamthecreaturefromuranus

Just a shame that only 1 in 10 of them actually go to the games.

papilon

When i was young Croydon was not even considered as being part of London.
I still feel around Crystal Palace is more suburbia, that's the impression i always got when i went to see Chelsea play at Selhurst Park. rows and rows of terraced housing.

Rotherhithe would be my epicentre of proper old school Sarf London dodgy as fark.

DC10

Exactly - that's what I'd have done/have done

But when you've spent as much time as I have travelling solo in Nicaragua, Colombia etc I guess you get a better perspective on these things

BadgeIsBack

And so it is - outside Central London - London IS suburbia...as a girl I met once said of parts of South London - unfortunately - 'white trash' suburbia...an agent said to me that the reason why the gentrified parts of S London were capable of being gentrified was because the housing stock was sufficiently interesting. The suburban housing further south is of lower quality stock.

Rotherhithe - but this would be vaguely cool now that Docklands and Canary Wharf and towers have been built. It really is all relative.

To add a bit of balance just because an area is vibrant - or - gritty(!) doesn't mean it can't be a good place to live or indeed connect with. I remember my mother liking the East end because there were all sorts of genuine people and a sense of community. So 'vibrancy' can mean solidarity/pride too. I met an Old Kent Road Londoner -the sterotypical S London 'gent'. He was an old boy made good.

chris955

I quite honestly have no idea what that means.

ozzieeagle

Yehp remember it clearly Croydon Surrey.

You mentioned the no name team with no rivals though and bused in supporters from Kent.... I think thats what actually got me.. The valley is 11.6ks from Charing Cross and Selhurst is 12.6ks.

Turban Explorer

There seem to be lots of regeneration projects going on in London - Kings Cross is completely revamped and connected to Eurostar, the 'Shard' - an immense structure is going up at London Bridge - and I haven't seen the Olympic complex yet in the East End. London really seems to be buzzing on patriotism and austerity - quite a sort of 40s vibe. It's certainly a more positive and exciting feel compared to last year.

It's just incredibly cheap being here. Clothes, dining out, supermarkets are a fraction of the price of Mackay. Cappuccino £1.50, pint of Stella £2.25, 2 course lunch in nice restaurants £12 ...

BadgeIsBack

What's the equivalent in Mackay, pray?

Turban Explorer

Roughly 3 to 4 times the price. Low quality, low choice, zero ambience - with all due respect to Mackay it is remote and a mining town so what can really be expected. I'm just loving my gastronomic, spa, treatments whirlwind visit to the Smoke. Shetlands next week with the olds.

BadgeIsBack

Nice. 3 x 4 times the price would be hard to bare in a place where there is no mining wage.

Keep us posted mate.

Turban Explorer

Mate ??