commonwealth

Is Sarf London more vibrant than The Bronx?

ozzieeagle

The 5 self made millionaires that saved Palace all hailed from around Croydon and still live South of the River. So people with real money still live in the area.

They'd want to because it's a real 'mare getting to the Ground by car.

BadgeIsBack

Sutton used to be a little respectable years ago...what killed it was a hoon and chav element - a nightclub, attracting all the Darrens and Traceys..

There are some very nasty estates to the W and N of Croydon. Not the S London that people often talk about - the gritty vibrant parts - just awful areas.

Hmmm...I agree in part. See, the truly vibrant areas have posh people. Non-vibrant areas have no posh people.

A posh mate of mine moved to Tooting 12 years ago - "its on the tube, and has a Tesco". I'm guessing that as Clapham is up the road that it's now outrageously cool.

renth

I used to live in Clapton, that was vibrant and diverse and a shithole but you could get Jerk Chicken just like mamma used to make and all the meat was Halal. Plus if you ran out of drugs you could just buy some on the street, easy peasy.

ozzieeagle

They are building a railline (Tube) from Croydon to Islington... I think it's actually in progress. Straight to Highbury without having to go into Central London.

chris955

No.

chris955

Excellent, so its like Sydneys Western suburbs?

ozzieeagle

Funny iniit... one thing I really miss from whence I came is Jamaica Patties. So it's not totally 100pct bad.

I also learned when and how to spot muggers and steps to avoid them.... When to use a high street and when to use the back roads that kind of thing. Really gives you a feel for whats dodgy and not dodgy. It actually comes down to how you hold yourself.

That Bat and Ball Club in Peckham used to be really bad to be around at chucking out time. Even I wouldnt venture out then.... and I reckon I really knew how to avoid problems.

Worst situation I was ever in.... was around a Non Believer or person that wasn't used to the area, from Glasgow by the sounds and manner of him I reckoned. He fronted up to all the 14 year olds that were pushing in in front of him at one of the local eateries.... I tried to give him a serious warning look but he wasn't having it. He got buried under a sea of about 20 or more 14 year old West Indians.... These days he probably would have got stabbed. There was honestly nothing I could do as I would have definitely copped the same. Always haunted me that night... Plus I lived there and they probably would have remembered me. . It was damn hard to witness.

Cheetah7

The first one is so funny - he must have some sort of tourettes(?) or something, I have never heard anyone swear so much in one sentence, so quickly.

The woman below just needs a sponge in her mouth, some duct tape and a bag on her head, and she will be fine if taken to a special place for special people.

BadgeIsBack

But was it for real, or was it just 'stacks'.

BadgeIsBack

It's what I think many people mean!

Vibrant is often an euphemism, make no mistake.

Amazulu

I used to live and work in Croydon (bought my first home in South Croydon). While parts of it are nice (some very nice), most parts are not. Crossing the road from central Croydon to West Croydon (by M&S) is like entering the 3rd world!

chris955

Its not what i think of when i hear the word vibrant, it seems like a very odd way to view the term in connection to a city.

papilon

That's the real Sarf London, that's real full on bandit country. It feels like entering a different city down there and i always avoided it as much as possible.

Charlie Chaplin, Michael Caine, Jamie Forman. It's Freddie Forman, Charlie
Richardson, Mad Frankie Fraser, the Great Train Robbers. It's Jade Goody, Charley Uchea, Millwall Football Club, Charlton Athletic. It's bear-baiting in Southwark and Christopher Marlowe's death in Deptford. It's Graham Swift's The Last Orders, Michael Winterbottom's Wonderland, Gary Oldman's Nil By Mouth. It's Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine, Saxon Sound System, Kirsty MacColl, Squeeze, speed garage and jungle music. It's Electric Avenue and Deptford High Street, pie and mash shops, the Dog and Bell in Deptford, the Brixton riots and the Battle of Lewisham, Jah Shaka at the Moonshot, Club Multepulciano at the Rivoli Ballroom, and perhaps even the Flying Pickets at the Albany Empire.

ozzieeagle

Pink Floyd at the Garden Party... and the Stranglers at Battersea park.... Dr Smiths and the Witch Doctor (aka the shoot out between the Richardson and Krays in Catford) Tommy Steele, Captain Sensible, David Bowie and the Quo from Sedge Hill. Mods and Rockers down the South Circular ... The Arches at London Bridge and Bermondsey.. Julian Cleary as a Underground lift attendent, The Bromley contingent without whom Punk would never have happened. School mates nicking lead off roofs..

One thing you got totally wrong.... There is only one team in South London worth Mentioning

The Twin Icons that act as a beacon for South London.... The TV Masts that the whole of London can see from anywhere high.

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