iamthecreaturefromuranus

commonwealth

You mean Berlin und Frankfurt?

king kong

i stated british which at present includes norn iron too ,i wasnt refering to the english . The irish are far from hopeless , they are just as inexperienced as a fresh brit off the boat . The problems the irish are having is the face so many young irish have had to leave because their government along with others in europe have turned their economy into mush .Its all about numbers and australian sub contractors are fed up because obviously they have had to get rid of a fair few for the reasons i stated .
In regards to work ethic the irish suffer just as badly for drink related , marital ,cat dead excuses as the english and the rest of the peoples that make up the british isles

the troubadour

Quite. Business has far too much influence in government these days. Funny how socialism is acceptable to the financial sector when it comes to other people's money to cover their losses to bail them out, but then on the other hand some of their herd continue to mouth on about greater freedom.
If that inept/corrupt sector doesn't warrant the tightest regulation in order to control their folly, which looks like returning like nothing happened,then it will be difficult to know what it would take.

DC10

But when you really boil it down, the losses came about because govts wanted bankers to keep the plebs happy with endless credit in lieu of improved productivity. Don't ever believe that the man in the street wasn't complicit to the boom which ended in 2008. We all had a good time, esp. in Britain.

IvanM

This time it is different and will only ever go up!

Amazulu

This is exactly what I was saying at the beginning of this thread. Governments and banks are to blame, but the people who took on these debts also need to shoulder some of the blame for getting their asses into this situation.

DC10

Aussies wouldn't even know about the first half of that truism

Amazulu

Had a look at some online Irish property websites - Dublin, Gallway.

All I can say is, that if there has been a property price crash there, then I would hate to see what prices were 2-4 years ago. Still seems pretty expensive to me - SE England prices.