LOL - it got moved by someone because it turned into a debate on the finer points of the recession (or not as it may be) when the original question was regards visa's. It seems to have reverted back to visa talk now.....

Great answers

Considering the sums of money involved and the time and effort put into applications, not to mention the mindset of applicants prepared to move lock stock, I consider 'because they can' offensive or at best flippant.

175 applicants are prepared to come to Australia, at their own financial risk and give it a go in support of Australia.

Repayment at the moment is to be put on hold and maybe dusted off in a couple of years....

Sorry its just not good enough

I saw a car sticker on the back of a car here in VIC only yesterday it said F**K OFF we are full

Australia and Australians have a lot of growing up to do, put that sticker on the back of a car in the UK and your a racist.

I don't care so much about the sticker or the other silly comment, BUT hello, Australia is a country entirely created by an immigrant workforce, its done well, in fact its done very well.

Why create a list, still there by the way, and then shelve applicants, sounds like a bit of a cash cow to me........

Beause its rumour and conjecture and if it stays in the Immi forum people get panicked by the rumours.

If you are saying that it is a rumor that 175 applications are not on hold then please why

1. Was I told by Adelaide that my 175 application was on hold, pending review end of 2012.

and

2. Is a similar statement is on the website.

What concerns me even more is that trades not on the CSL are still being accepted, which to me, is little more than banking the cash by the department and giving false hope to non CSL applicants that in a timely manner they will be processed.

Its a sham (4 to 5 year wait), and sorry its a fact (non CSL applicants applying GSM 175 are on hold).

DIAC should remove ALL but CSL trades, advise on timelines clearly and I might change my mind

175 is the new 136. They changed the subclass to 175 on 1 September 2007.

It is rumour and conjecture as to what the future tiumelines will be, and as for saying that 175s are dead in the water, that is just not true. There may be longer processing times at present but to leave a trhead with a title like this in the Immigation forum causes a lot of heartache to people who then believe their visas will never be granted.

We prefer to keep the facts to the Immigration forum, and the discussions on what might or might not happen in the chat forums. That way people seeking hard facts get a clearer outlook.

If you applied in March 2008 why have you not had your visa?! We applied in April 2008 and got our visa in January

we applied in Aug 08 for a 175, still no sign of it lol, well not lol really but if I don't laugh I'll cry. We were on the lovely CSL till March, if all goes with the current plan we could have a full 5 yrs before we see it. Our meds run out in Jan so its a given we will have to do them again, brilliant. I'm going to be skint by the end of it.

I have seen 175's be granted lately though, for CSL'rs.

We are not currently in Australia, however in Sydney they are crying out for Hairdressers I have seen loads of ad's but they have shot them off the lsit along with Chefs they need them also. but no Immi in there wisdom is shooting its self in the foot. my father in law is in Sydney!


As for the citizen/resident .... comment, everybody is trying to get there ... it is the one's who use the CSL list and when they get there they do not do the job.... simple way is make everybody have a job offer if you do not tough dont come in .... I am sure Australia is desperate for IT as all the IT jobs in the UK are going to ~India as it is cheap labour FACT, Australia will be doing the same if it is not already doing so.

O another thing, that gets under my skin, thankfully I was not one of the misfortunate one's but how Immi tell people to do the medicals then say sorry we have changed the lists " hang on you told me to do medicals" sorry nothing we can do its the changes you see. that just proves the Aussie government con artists. they know full well the changes that are going to be introduced months ahead, as said on a diff post, they took our money for a 174 in oct 08 knowing full well that we would not get a visa for at least 4 to 5 years .... they will not offer refunds as they know it will cost them $100,000 thousands of dollars, money that has already been spent!!

I feel really sorry for all who have spent the money on medicals and have to do them again.

Australia is already doing it, IT and call centres alike.

Very similar to when the $100,000 bond was withdrawn. I don't know how many posters on this thread remember/are aware of that one.
People could gain extra point by depositing $100k with an Aussie State. A couple of years back there was a scandal involving one of the banks and it was disovered that a lot of people appeared to be less than honest about the source of the money, so the bond option was withdrawn, overnight.
Many people had sold their homes to raise the money, as it was the last step before visa grant, and there were thousands of applicants stranded overnight with no homes, no jobs, flights booked - in some cases about to hand over the cash that very day. Many of them had to give up on migration altogether as there was no way of raising the extra points, so had to rebuild their lives in their home countries.
Some did finally get into Australia, but to my mind that ws a far worse situation than this - at least the visas are still being processed, 175 still exists, it just has a longer timeline. Those affected by the bond issue had no option, their visa route was just gone, overnight.

Just hop on an Indonesian fishing boat, sink the fcker in Australian waters and send out a may day.

Rudd & Evans naive immigration policies are going to hurt Australia I'm afraid.

Presumably because they are aware of the hundreds of hairdressing and chef students there are in the TAFEs and colleges at the moment who have all come in under the student visa scheme.

How do you know they've known since before October 08 the changes that would be made? Where's the proof? DIAC continue doing their jobs, checking out applications, asking people for more information, Meds and PCCs until they are given the latest rules from the Federal Government. Why are they con artists? Neither DIAC nor the Australian Government make any money out of the payments paid to the Panel Doctors around the WORLD.

You are understandably annoyed about the changes, you've been unlucky. However the rules change every year, maybe more than once in a year, some people get their visas quicker because of the change in rules, others get delayed.

No one has a right to a visa. The only people with a right to anything is the Government of the country people are trying to get visas for. Their responsibility is to the current population, not the one or two individuals who may be put out by their changes. They have a perfect right to do what's best for their country. Deal with it.

Money penny, do not be fooled into thinking any government say oh I tell you what we will change the rules tomorrow. All government take months to sort out new rules etc.

I was merely stating I feel sorry for the people who have been advised to do the medicals by a CO then to get told sorry your off the list and will have to wait for 3 years then have to do it all over again.

Also it was stated by an agent they new they was chaing the list.

I was refering the to the visa application fee where the government are con artists they take in all the money and they do make money on it. it is called interest and of course they will not refund money as they have spent it! (not that I want a refund before you start on that long winded speech) your attitude to the deal with it.of course I am annoyed that I have to wait up to 3 years but deal with it. for others however it is not good of a moderator to give an attitude like that. it is there life that immi are messing with and costing them money when they tell them to do medicals and then tell them tough you have to wait cause we changed our rules. FOR all have been done for medicals you have my sympathy.