Elizabeth.Marley

Jack,

This site provides help for the people who are either moving to Barbados or dream about moving and putting their plans into action in the near future, together with a group of people who kindly offer their help and advice.
I take it that you're English by birth, then you should know that it is the height of BAD manners to correct someone’s English in public.

A lifestyle is the way a person lives. This includes patterns of social relations, consumption, entertainment, and dress. A lifestyle typically also reflects an individual's attitudes, values or worldview.

Having a specific "lifestyle" means engaging in a characteristic bundle of behaviours that makes sense to both others and ones self in different times and places. Therefore, a lifestyle can be used to forge a sense of self-identity and to create cultural symbols for the way a person is. The behaviours and practices within lifestyles are a mixture of habits, conventional ways of doing things, and reasoned actions. So I’m sure you'll agree that we all have a certain way of living our life! Thus we have a lifestyle.

Elizabeth

zanne

Please! I made a simple typo because I was tired!!!

Elizabeth, you are right!!! But I was not in anyway offended by the criticism of my poor spelling and/or grammar. (Plus if this guy can't handle a simple mistake he is going to have a heart attack over some of the grammar he will hearhere in Barbados!)

The spirit of the forum is to aid one another--Barbados is not an easy place to navigate and this is coming from me...someone who moved to NYC with just a few dollars. So every little bit of information that you can get to point you in the right direction is welcome. The only thing that I can say is that there are all types of people that move to Barbados for all kinds of reasons, and no 2 situations are alike, but if you have the slightest inclination that Barbados isn't your kind of place why bother uprooting yourself and your family?

Good night!

Jack Bowman

Elizabeth,

Many thanks for your reply. I trust that you and yours are well.

You take it that I am English by birth, and you use that assumption as the foundation of an argument. If, say, I was born in Sudan to a Sephardi Jewish mother from Iraq and a Catholic father from what used to be Czechoslovakia, and if I was (I’m pretty certain that would be “was” and not “were”; the subjunctive mood doesn’t apply here) brought up in Italy and spent my adolescence in Nicaragua, and then was educated in England, would your admonition about politeness still hold? If it did, why make a point about Englishness?

A lifestyle (pace you) isn’t “the way a person lives”. A lifestyle is something terribly sad. Whatever value social scientists invested in the word in the 1960s is now and for ever lost. A lifestyle is what the unread have. It’s what the advertisers want you to have (“This Residential Golf Community Fits Your Lifestyle!!!). The very concept is an inanity.

What I choose to consume, how I choose to be entertained, and how I choose to dress, outside the tiresome tenure-track treadmill of the academy, are normally called “tastes”. They have nothing to do with “lifestyle”. How my kinship relations are formed are part of what is normally called, and rightly so, a “life”.

You write well. Clarity of writing being, in general, a good index of clarity of thought, I salute you.

Best wishes,
JB

Added later, after a bit of research ...

Elizabeth, I take it back. You may or may nor write well, but the person who wrote your stuff about "lifestyle" on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifestyle) certainly does. Would have helped if you'd cited your source.

All best,
JB

zanne

You Jack B are, what we in the US, call a troll. Please enough is enough.

Jack Bowman

Sorry. What's a troll?

zanne

Check: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

trutje

What a prick

Barbados is the most beautiful place in the world!!! Tadatadada

I was shaking with laugther
scared the bratty children
did I destroy the ambience
I'm sure for that hoity-toity patron

it wasn't pretty when I looked into the face
oops, into the eyes, ruptured icy chaos
what's the, what's the, who's the prick

we was hidden in the potted plants
I know and we was no obnoxious
but I could see, there in the sun room
the growing storm of disapproval

it wasn't pretty when I looked into the face
oops, into the eyes, ruptured icy chaos
what's the, what's the, who's the prick

I ain't supposed to laugh
can't let your children see that
I ain't supposed to wonder
what's the, who's the prick
what's the, who's the prick
what's the, who's the prick
what's the, what's the, who's the prick

Jack Bowman

Zanne’s last comment on me was certainly a little discourteous, but I definitely can’t share your view that she’s a “prick”. That strikes me as an extraordinarily rude thing to say.

In fact, doesn’t this site have some moderator who can sanction people indulging in arbitrary, ad hominen attacks on other posters?

Neither can I share your view that Barbados is “the most beautiful place in the world”. Quite apart from the matter of personal taste (would an Inuit or a gaucho necessarily regard Barbados as “the most beautiful place in the world”?), such an absolute assertion would only begin to have any meaning if you had been to every other place in the world.

But as regards your rudeness to Zanne, we can always review the evidence in the record (that is, all the posts that have gone before this one), and determine who was rude, who was glib, who unnecessarily took offense, who reacted to which insults, who was gracious, and when.

Despite your dreadful rudeness to Zanne, I hope you are well.

trutje

Just go and irritate some other people, maybe some in your sad life!

trutje

Hier ,here ,hear

Jack Bowman

Dear Travelera LLC.

I understand, according to the “legal” link on your site, that “BritishExpats.com”, is “provided by Travelera LLC on an ‘As Is’ basis” and that “Travelera LLC makes no representations or warranties of any kind, express or implied …”.

I further understand that you hereby publicly assert, on your “legal” link on the referenced site, that “if brought to our attention the administrators and moderators of the forum will attempt to remove or edit any objectionable material as quickly as possible”.

I wish to draw to your attention some objectionable material that I believe is actionable and enforceable under the law (I understand that you are operating under US legislation. If this is not the case, please inform me immediately.)

I hereby draw your attention to the comments made about me by “trutje” on this day at 1:24 pm and 1:36 pm I will not herein repeat all of the comments made by “trutje”, but I want hereby to record that (notwithstanding any other claims of objection I might have in future) I find the comment below be “objectionable material” that you will [remove] “as quickly as possible”.

“irritate some other people, maybe some in your sad life!”

I reserve all my legal rights to make further representations about “trutje” and his or her comments.

Thank your for your immediate attention to this matter.

trutje

Don't forget to mention your own insults all above,you PRICK!!!:curse:

Jack Bowman

Dear Travelera LLC.

I reiterate my understanding of what you regard as your legal obligations. I reiterate my rights to make further representations about “trutje” and his or her comments in the forums you control, and that are internationally accessible.

I note that, in another forum you control, “trutje” had this to say: “'I’ve heard that of the Dominican Replubic [sic] but that's no surprise because it's attached to Haiti.”

I find this comment deeply troubling. There can be no doubt that the comment can give rise to a discussion about whether the person who made the comment is, latently or otherwise, a racist.

I hereby draw your attention to this matter, on the understanding that Travelera LLC, which “provides” “BritishExpats.com”, “will attempt to remove or edit any objectionable material as quickly as possible”.

Jack Bowman

I'm sorry, trutje. What would those insults have been, exactly?

Jack Bowman

I'm sorry again, trutje. It took me a while to realise that we're not talking the same language. I’m talking English, a language that tends to eschew exclamation marks and that can make its own point, even when used by the subliterate, without help from graphics.

What I meant to say, in your language, was this:

I’m sorry!!!!! What would those insults have been, exactly?