15 month update
Aug 25th 2013, 1:19 pm
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Re: 15 month update
Actually, it's a hidden affordable gem and I remain convinced there must be other places like this in the UK. It's cheap compared to places like Harrogate or Ilkley, or to anywhere in the Dales, because we're in a Bradford postcode. But we're miles from Bradford in a valley that we call the hidden valley - no tourists, no traffic but very close to the M65, which is a fast motorway to Manchester and further west.
The only neighbour who will have to deal with traffic every day is the one who commutes into Bradford - that's a tough one because it's all A roads.
The downsides are that we can get snowed in during winter and the roads never get cleared (too small), there's no public transport and no shop unless you drive at least 10 minutes. Also, we're uncomfortably close to Lancashire
The only neighbour who will have to deal with traffic every day is the one who commutes into Bradford - that's a tough one because it's all A roads.
The downsides are that we can get snowed in during winter and the roads never get cleared (too small), there's no public transport and no shop unless you drive at least 10 minutes. Also, we're uncomfortably close to Lancashire
Aug 25th 2013, 10:12 pm
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Re: 15 month update
Which is interesting because the Commission for Integrated Transport has found that Britain has the worst traffic congestion in Europe, which certainly tallies with my experience. You wouldn't think this could happen in a country with a "huge number" of places like this.
Aug 25th 2013, 10:40 pm
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Re: 15 month update
...............That's why I think anyone considering moving back has to do a really thorough analysis of what's important to them and then assess whether they can attain that if they move back. Look at the number of people who move from somewhere warm and sunny and only realize that's important to them once they get back here - that should have been determined before ever making the move.
I lived in a chocolate box wonderland in one of the nicest parts of the country and I worked in a so-called beautiful city as well, and after 12 months of commuting I'd started looking into emigration. Endless gridlock, road works, unbelievable road rage, tail-gating, totally unaffordable petrol, and double yellow lines everywhere when I got in causing a long and miserable search for a parking space. If you've found somewhere where none of these things exist I presume housing is not affordable because demand would be too great.
Chocolate box wonderlands; all of them! When you leave these walled compounds, that's when you hit the barbed wire!
Aug 25th 2013, 11:24 pm
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Re: 15 month update
And how expensive hell was, with mid-terraces with no central heating at $300,000.
Seriously, if you have done more research than the CIT I'm happy to read it and review your findings. Remember, "what I heard down the pub", and "what I see on my personal drive to work" do not constitute research.
I knew it! I just knew it!!
Aug 26th 2013, 2:28 am
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Re: 15 month update
1)- And how expensive hell was, with mid-terraces with no central heating at $300,000.
2)- Seriously, if you have done more research than the CIT I'm happy to read it and review your findings. Remember, "what I heard down the pub", and "what I see on my personal drive to work" do not constitute research.
2)- Seriously, if you have done more research than the CIT I'm happy to read it and review your findings. Remember, "what I heard down the pub", and "what I see on my personal drive to work" do not constitute research.
2)- Yet another FOK lesson eh? Too silly!
If I was guided by you, I would spend all my time putting up copious links to justify my frustrations that my decision to stay in Australia is the right one, and I simply cannot get everyone to see that I'm right in everything I say!
It must be very galling!
Aug 26th 2013, 2:34 am
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Re: 15 month update
1)- How you must have suffered.
2)- Yet another FOK lesson eh? Too silly!
If I was guided by you, I would spend all my time putting up copious links to justify my frustrations that my decision to stay in Australia is the right one, and I simply cannot get everyone to see that I'm right in everything I say!
It must be very galling!
2)- Yet another FOK lesson eh? Too silly!
If I was guided by you, I would spend all my time putting up copious links to justify my frustrations that my decision to stay in Australia is the right one, and I simply cannot get everyone to see that I'm right in everything I say!
It must be very galling!
Aug 26th 2013, 2:49 am
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Re: 15 month update
The difficulty you have with arguing with me is that I care no more about Britain than I do about Australia. I am aware of the pros and cons of each nation and post about all of it regularly. This is opposed to the method favoured by you and chris955 who post solely anti-Australian comments, as the most cursory of glances through your back posts so perfectly demonstrates.
I don't like it here, but I have tried to moderate anything I've said.
Bring them up-and we will go through them. One by one.
As for the quoted tripe. The former is arrogant nonsense. I am responding to you without difficulty Zender-and everyone 'friend or foe' knows that.
The latter? Disingenuous BS.
How can I put this without a modswoop? You have a certain posting style; I have a certain posting style.
There is no 'argument', we are 'discussing' things on a d/forum. Don't get sensitive about 'argument';-it is discussion.
This is not the UN. (Where have I heard that before?)
Aug 26th 2013, 3:29 am
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Re: 15 month update
I'm not interested in engaging in puerile debates about whether one country is superior to another. You would be better off finding someone who is then you can play Aus-UK ping pong with them till the cows come home. You're not going to get that from me because I am equally critical of both nations.
Aug 26th 2013, 5:39 am
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Re: 15 month update
I'm not interested in engaging in puerile debates about whether one country is superior to another. You would be better off finding someone who is then you can play Aus-UK ping pong with them till the cows come home. You're not going to get that from me because I am equally critical of both nations.
As to the rest.......at least you've given me a good chuckle!
Aug 26th 2013, 7:33 am
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Re: 15 month update
As you mentioned there are tons of places like that in the UK. For me its not about my postcode (which does seem VERY important to some) its the area, home etc that is what counts, somewhere you know you are going to enjoy living.
Aug 27th 2013, 10:18 am
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Re: 15 month update
Yes, that post code is the killer. Some people really are snobby about that stuff.
The only problem with our post code for me is that it made our car insurance go up a little bit even though we live in a place where the only crime in recent years was an ASBO 2 years ago! Car theft was much more likely where we lived before, but that was a Harrogate post code and therefore deemed safer. Really silly.
I can't do with arguing about what it's like here with people who don't live here. I'm here and I know I'm not sitting in traffic every time I go out (unless I drive into Leeds which I don't have to do because the train from the next village takes half an hour and parking at the station is free). I also know a mid-terrace here with central heating costs £125K-150K, not £300K.
OTOH, our village isn't chocolate-boxey - it's a working village with a lot of farms (and frequent pungent smells from the fields!) Walking down the lane is an exercise in avoiding roadkill and lambing season can be a tad brutal. We're right up in the hills, so we get more rain than most places, and the wind can be fierce.
This place is my idea of heaven, but I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to paint it as perfect - some people really wouldn't like it I'm sure.
The only problem with our post code for me is that it made our car insurance go up a little bit even though we live in a place where the only crime in recent years was an ASBO 2 years ago! Car theft was much more likely where we lived before, but that was a Harrogate post code and therefore deemed safer. Really silly.
I can't do with arguing about what it's like here with people who don't live here. I'm here and I know I'm not sitting in traffic every time I go out (unless I drive into Leeds which I don't have to do because the train from the next village takes half an hour and parking at the station is free). I also know a mid-terrace here with central heating costs £125K-150K, not £300K.
OTOH, our village isn't chocolate-boxey - it's a working village with a lot of farms (and frequent pungent smells from the fields!) Walking down the lane is an exercise in avoiding roadkill and lambing season can be a tad brutal. We're right up in the hills, so we get more rain than most places, and the wind can be fierce.
This place is my idea of heaven, but I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to paint it as perfect - some people really wouldn't like it I'm sure.
Aug 27th 2013, 12:10 pm
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Re: 15 month update
Yes, that post code is the killer. Some people really are snobby about that stuff.
The only problem with our post code for me is that it made our car insurance go up a little bit even though we live in a place where the only crime in recent years was an ASBO 2 years ago! Car theft was much more likely where we lived before, but that was a Harrogate post code and therefore deemed safer. Really silly.
I can't do with arguing about what it's like here with people who don't live here. I'm here and I know I'm not sitting in traffic every time I go out (unless I drive into Leeds which I don't have to do because the train from the next village takes half an hour and parking at the station is free). I also know a mid-terrace here with central heating costs £125K-150K, not £300K.
OTOH, our village isn't chocolate-boxey - it's a working village with a lot of farms (and frequent pungent smells from the fields!) Walking down the lane is an exercise in avoiding roadkill and lambing season can be a tad brutal. We're right up in the hills, so we get more rain than most places, and the wind can be fierce.
This place is my idea of heaven, but I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to paint it as perfect - some people really wouldn't like it I'm sure.
The only problem with our post code for me is that it made our car insurance go up a little bit even though we live in a place where the only crime in recent years was an ASBO 2 years ago! Car theft was much more likely where we lived before, but that was a Harrogate post code and therefore deemed safer. Really silly.
I can't do with arguing about what it's like here with people who don't live here. I'm here and I know I'm not sitting in traffic every time I go out (unless I drive into Leeds which I don't have to do because the train from the next village takes half an hour and parking at the station is free). I also know a mid-terrace here with central heating costs £125K-150K, not £300K.
OTOH, our village isn't chocolate-boxey - it's a working village with a lot of farms (and frequent pungent smells from the fields!) Walking down the lane is an exercise in avoiding roadkill and lambing season can be a tad brutal. We're right up in the hills, so we get more rain than most places, and the wind can be fierce.
This place is my idea of heaven, but I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to paint it as perfect - some people really wouldn't like it I'm sure.
That you are almost forced to write this (blue) as a qualifier, Sally,- is one of the compelling reasons for my return to the UK, if you understand me....
Aug 27th 2013, 1:53 pm
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Re: 15 month update
Yes, that post code is the killer. Some people really are snobby about that stuff.
The only problem with our post code for me is that it made our car insurance go up a little bit even though we live in a place where the only crime in recent years was an ASBO 2 years ago! Car theft was much more likely where we lived before, but that was a Harrogate post code and therefore deemed safer. Really silly.
I can't do with arguing about what it's like here with people who don't live here. I'm here and I know I'm not sitting in traffic every time I go out (unless I drive into Leeds which I don't have to do because the train from the next village takes half an hour and parking at the station is free). I also know a mid-terrace here with central heating costs £125K-150K, not £300K.
OTOH, our village isn't chocolate-boxey - it's a working village with a lot of farms (and frequent pungent smells from the fields!) Walking down the lane is an exercise in avoiding roadkill and lambing season can be a tad brutal. We're right up in the hills, so we get more rain than most places, and the wind can be fierce.
This place is my idea of heaven, but I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to paint it as perfect - some people really wouldn't like it I'm sure.
The only problem with our post code for me is that it made our car insurance go up a little bit even though we live in a place where the only crime in recent years was an ASBO 2 years ago! Car theft was much more likely where we lived before, but that was a Harrogate post code and therefore deemed safer. Really silly.
I can't do with arguing about what it's like here with people who don't live here. I'm here and I know I'm not sitting in traffic every time I go out (unless I drive into Leeds which I don't have to do because the train from the next village takes half an hour and parking at the station is free). I also know a mid-terrace here with central heating costs £125K-150K, not £300K.
OTOH, our village isn't chocolate-boxey - it's a working village with a lot of farms (and frequent pungent smells from the fields!) Walking down the lane is an exercise in avoiding roadkill and lambing season can be a tad brutal. We're right up in the hills, so we get more rain than most places, and the wind can be fierce.
This place is my idea of heaven, but I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to paint it as perfect - some people really wouldn't like it I'm sure.
