A year's gone by already.................
Jul 23rd 2003, 1:41 am
#106
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Originally posted by badgersmount
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Any proudness often manifests itself as unnecessary negativity, overbearing, or then an accusation of arrogance - ask any Australian or New Zealand rugby fan when an English fan celebrates a win. Look at the tribal nature of soccer and some of the fans overseas. Look at English blokes in Bondi beach in Australia - an embarassment of oafishness, loudness and the locals saying bloody English!! I can always tell the English from the Aussies in the Eastern suburbs - the English answer and shout in to their mobiles on the buses - I was cringing with embarassment - the aussies were polite and subtle.
How can we be proud when films like Braveheart make fools of us?(!)
badgers
"..
Any proudness often manifests itself as unnecessary negativity, overbearing, or then an accusation of arrogance - ask any Australian or New Zealand rugby fan when an English fan celebrates a win. Look at the tribal nature of soccer and some of the fans overseas. Look at English blokes in Bondi beach in Australia - an embarassment of oafishness, loudness and the locals saying bloody English!! I can always tell the English from the Aussies in the Eastern suburbs - the English answer and shout in to their mobiles on the buses - I was cringing with embarassment - the aussies were polite and subtle.
How can we be proud when films like Braveheart make fools of us?(!)
badgers
Jul 23rd 2003, 1:46 am
#107
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Originally posted by pommie bastard
Australians win on oafishness and loudness hands down they are bad losers and worse winners , you dream on never come across the word HOON?
Australians win on oafishness and loudness hands down they are bad losers and worse winners , you dream on never come across the word HOON?
Bread and Circuses?
Jul 23rd 2003, 2:41 am
#108
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Originally posted by Florida_03
Sorry universal problem, never come across the word LAGER LOUT.
Bread and Circuses?
Sorry universal problem, never come across the word LAGER LOUT.
Bread and Circuses?
Jul 23rd 2003, 2:43 am
#109
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Originally posted by badgersmount
"I find that a lot of English people sort of shuffle around and are scared to say "I'm proud of my country". - they are more likely to denounce their own land than stick up for it - it's one thing which I do not get! "
That's the problem in a nutshell. Unlike the Irish, the Welsh and the Scots we are not "allowed" to be proud. I used to be and at college I was acused of being right wing by my Guardian reading, sandal wearing lecturers. For many 30 somethings educated in the early 1990s it has been drummed out of us. I had a lecturer at college in 1995 who told us that there was no such thing as English culture. It was all based on negativity. There seemed a brief resurgence in the late 1990s with "Cool Britannia"..
Any proudness often manifests itself as unnecessary negativity, overbearing, or then an accusation of arrogance - ask any Australian or New Zealand rugby fan when an English fan celebrates a win. Look at the tribal nature of soccer and some of the fans overseas. Look at English blokes in Bondi beach in Australia - an embarassment of oafishness, loudness and the locals saying bloody English!! I can always tell the English from the Aussies in the Eastern suburbs - the English answer and shout in to their mobiles on the buses - I was cringing with embarassment - the aussies were polite and subtle.
How can we be proud when films like Braveheart make fools of us?(!)
badgers
"I find that a lot of English people sort of shuffle around and are scared to say "I'm proud of my country". - they are more likely to denounce their own land than stick up for it - it's one thing which I do not get! "
That's the problem in a nutshell. Unlike the Irish, the Welsh and the Scots we are not "allowed" to be proud. I used to be and at college I was acused of being right wing by my Guardian reading, sandal wearing lecturers. For many 30 somethings educated in the early 1990s it has been drummed out of us. I had a lecturer at college in 1995 who told us that there was no such thing as English culture. It was all based on negativity. There seemed a brief resurgence in the late 1990s with "Cool Britannia"..
Any proudness often manifests itself as unnecessary negativity, overbearing, or then an accusation of arrogance - ask any Australian or New Zealand rugby fan when an English fan celebrates a win. Look at the tribal nature of soccer and some of the fans overseas. Look at English blokes in Bondi beach in Australia - an embarassment of oafishness, loudness and the locals saying bloody English!! I can always tell the English from the Aussies in the Eastern suburbs - the English answer and shout in to their mobiles on the buses - I was cringing with embarassment - the aussies were polite and subtle.
How can we be proud when films like Braveheart make fools of us?(!)
badgers
You are generalising so much - and to be honest I don't recognise the Australia which you talk about and I'm living here! There are rude and polite people here, the same as there's rude and polite people in the UK. people are people where ever you go in this life, some bad, some good, some rude , some polite.
You are living in a total fantasy world
Quick look out there's an 18inch Huntsman behind you - lol
I could feel quite sorry for you if you can not be proud of who you are. At least PB (although he can be totally obnoxious sometimes
) is proud of his birthright "Englishness" - that I can respect. I can't see why you are so quick to be pretend to be something which you are not. Cheers
Last edited by Ceri; Jul 23rd 2003 at 3:51 am.
Jul 23rd 2003, 3:00 am
#110
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Originally posted by Wilf
Youthful high spirits, that's all it is. You'll be knocking piracy next. The English lads throw punches with a little finger crooked and that is class that your Ozzie bogan will never manage.
Youthful high spirits, that's all it is. You'll be knocking piracy next. The English lads throw punches with a little finger crooked and that is class that your Ozzie bogan will never manage.
Sooty's all grown up he's not a puppet anymore
He's interested in getting pissed and passing out on the floor, Oi!
He glassed Basil Brush with a bottle of stout
And threw a dart in Squeek's eyes before he pulled it out
Who's that walking on air?
Bouncing down the street without a care?
It's skin head Sooty, with the killer xylophone, Oi!
With blood soaked bovver boots and a racist attitude
A mean (bowdler knows) mother's son
Not afraid of anyone
Got the others on the run
Here he comes, here he comes
Sooty the skin, Oi! queek, queek, queek, queek, queek, Oi!
Sooty's got a tattoo and he's gone and shaved his head
He's dating muppets half his age
And getting them into bed
He says his old friends are all miserable pricks
They're married now or dead and gone
Or mentally sick
Who's that walking on air?
Bouncing down the street without a care?
Well the hunce caught up with Basil Brush and he got clubbed to death (god blimy, god blimy etc)
Hey Paul, it's enough mate (It's dead mate) mate, you've knocked the stuffing out of him
Bill and Ben got little weed and smoked it in the shed
Weed! Weed! Weed!
Blubba that little weed
Zebadee ODed on E and now he's pushing clover
It's not lawn I got it from the womballs
Dougal blindly humps the leg of his owner
I say, what's that tune, said Dougal
(Last post, damn, splinter) Ow
bobby is a bigot
the clangers flew away
The thunderbirds are puppets, No!
And Andy Pandy's Gay!
(and proud people, and proud, no strings on end, he stands up himself these days)
Who's causing havoc on the docks?
In a pair of bright red braces and cherry red docs!
It's skin head Sooty with the killer xylophone
With a blood soaked Stanley knife
And a racist attitude
He'll wait until you're all alone
Crack your skull, break your bones
Send the pieces to your home
He's the one
All in fun
Sooty the skin-head
Oi, oi, oi, oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi!
Last edited by Florida_03; Jul 23rd 2003 at 3:11 am.
Jul 23rd 2003, 3:15 am
#111
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Originally posted by Florida_03
Sorry universal problem, never come across the word LAGER LOUT.
Bread and Circuses?
Sorry universal problem, never come across the word LAGER LOUT.
Bread and Circuses?
Jul 23rd 2003, 3:19 am
#112
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Originally posted by pommie bastard
True but you lads win hands down at this sport I would bet on a Aussie Hoon any time .
True but you lads win hands down at this sport I would bet on a Aussie Hoon any time .
One of the landed gentry?
Jul 23rd 2003, 3:22 am
#113
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Originally posted by Florida_03
Yes know what you mean...TV has a lot to answer for...
Sooty's all grown up he's not a puppet anymore...
Yes know what you mean...TV has a lot to answer for...
Sooty's all grown up he's not a puppet anymore...
Jul 23rd 2003, 4:07 am
#114
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Originally posted by Florida_03
I'll have to take your word for it.
One of the landed gentry?
I'll have to take your word for it.
One of the landed gentry?
Jul 23rd 2003, 4:41 am
#115
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Originally posted by pommie bastard
Yes WA bikies are more up market.
Yes WA bikies are more up market.
Jul 23rd 2003, 4:44 am
#116
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Originally posted by Florida_03
Looks more like Hen's Night at 20 Reid Promenade, Joondalup?
Looks more like Hen's Night at 20 Reid Promenade, Joondalup?
Jul 23rd 2003, 5:07 am
#117
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Originally posted by pommie bastard
Dam and blast you are doing me out of me promotion free ales , what deal you did get?
Dam and blast you are doing me out of me promotion free ales , what deal you did get?
"Smart Casual Only"
"No Rugby Shirts"
"No Welsh Shirts after 6:30pm"
I was going to implement the
"No Pommie Bastards" door rule but takings would have plummetted.
Jul 23rd 2003, 5:45 am
#118
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If what BB is proud of is 'Englishness' then I am calling for a rethink on my nationality I always said I was English not UK or British but now I may choose something else.
Jul 23rd 2003, 5:51 am
#119
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Originally posted by yafm
If what BB is proud of is 'Englishness' then I am calling for a rethink on my nationality I always said I was English not UK or British but now I may choose something else.
If what BB is proud of is 'Englishness' then I am calling for a rethink on my nationality I always said I was English not UK or British but now I may choose something else.
