Working hours in Australia
Apr 18th 2010, 11:34 am
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Re: Working hours in Australia
My timesheet says I've done 52 hours this week - the reality is more like 65 - just finished a 10hr Sunday - no day off this week.
I very much agree with sonlymewalter's comment about working harder not smarter. Mostly as a result of that I seem to end up doing more weekend work here though, rather than finding weekends protected.
That's just my personal experience - others will of course differ.
I very much agree with sonlymewalter's comment about working harder not smarter. Mostly as a result of that I seem to end up doing more weekend work here though, rather than finding weekends protected.
That's just my personal experience - others will of course differ.
To take an example of how my working life is led ... I can see the boss expecting me to 'take over' from someone at work who is expected to sacrifice her weekends ... she is on 2 weeks leave and this is just the start of the shite (I am Johnny On The Spot by default) ... so, my plan is to establish, in no uncertain terms, that I will not be going down that road.
Management is such that 'exceptional' extra working could be the norm, the usual combination of incompetence and stupidity.
The negotiations will be interesting and it is 50/50 if I will be in the same employment in 2 weeks but at least I may see some of my daughter's development.
It is, when all said and done, only a job.
Apr 18th 2010, 11:38 am
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Re: Working hours in Australia
Apr 18th 2010, 11:41 am
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Re: Working hours in Australia
Mercer seems to rank them differently though - and says that public holidays "may" be counted towards annual leave - it doesnt say that they ARE. http://www.mercer.com/summary.htm?idContent=1360620
United Kingdom: effective from 1 April 2009, a worker is entitled to 28 days of annual leave each year (up from 24 previously). Public holidays (of which there are eight days in the UK) may count towards the employee’s annual leave entitlement.
For Australia they say:
Australia: the law provides for four weeks of paid annual leave
there are usually at least two additional public holidays proclaimed in each state/territory each year, which must also be observed. Some are applicable to certain industries, such as banking, or only apply to certain regions.
there are usually at least two additional public holidays proclaimed in each state/territory each year, which must also be observed. Some are applicable to certain industries, such as banking, or only apply to certain regions.
These are the 8 Public Holidays this year...
- Fri 1st Jan 2010 New Year's Day
- Tue 26th Jan 2010 Australia Day
- Fri 2nd Apr 2010 Good Friday
- Sat 3rd Apr 2010 Easter Saturday ???
- Mon 5th Apr 2010 Easter Monday
- Anzac Day Monday, 26 April 2010
- Labour Day Monday, 3 May 2010
- Queen's Birthday Monday, 14 June 2010
- Royal Queensland Show Wednesday, 11 August 2010
- Christmas Day Tuesday, 28 December 2010
- Boxing Day Monday, 27 December 2010
Plus of course there is the long service leave. 3 Months after 10 years.
How many normal British workers get more then the Australian 20 days + 10 public holidays (ex Easter Saturday) ie: 30 days per year, plus 3 months after 10 years.
Apr 18th 2010, 11:44 am
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Re: Working hours in Australia
Apr 18th 2010, 11:47 am
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Re: Working hours in Australia
I think both Australia mandates 20 days holidays minimum. Pub hols about 11 days.
UK mandates 28 days minimum but only country in Europe where those holidays can include the 8 public holidays - so depends on employer.
I believe the question wasn't whether the UK was better than Australia (which I believe it is sometimes), rather whether Australia was the 2nd worst in the industrialised world.
UK mandates 28 days minimum but only country in Europe where those holidays can include the 8 public holidays - so depends on employer.
I believe the question wasn't whether the UK was better than Australia (which I believe it is sometimes), rather whether Australia was the 2nd worst in the industrialised world.
Apr 18th 2010, 11:50 am
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Re: Working hours in Australia
That report states:
Yet they then say 28 days + 8 Public Holiday = 36 days
For Australia they say:
Yet they quote 20 + 8 Public Holiday = 28 days
These are the 8 Public Holidays this year...
Plus of course there is the long service leave. 3 Months after 10 years.
How many normal British workers get more then the Australian 20 days + 10 public holidays (ex Easter Saturday) ie: 30 days per year, plus 3 months after 10 years.
Yet they then say 28 days + 8 Public Holiday = 36 days
For Australia they say:
Yet they quote 20 + 8 Public Holiday = 28 days
These are the 8 Public Holidays this year...
- Fri 1st Jan 2010 New Year's Day
- Tue 26th Jan 2010 Australia Day
- Fri 2nd Apr 2010 Good Friday
- Sat 3rd Apr 2010 Easter Saturday ???
- Mon 5th Apr 2010 Easter Monday
- Anzac Day Monday, 26 April 2010
- Labour Day Monday, 3 May 2010
- Queen's Birthday Monday, 14 June 2010
- Royal Queensland Show Wednesday, 11 August 2010
- Christmas Day Tuesday, 28 December 2010
- Boxing Day Monday, 27 December 2010
Plus of course there is the long service leave. 3 Months after 10 years.
How many normal British workers get more then the Australian 20 days + 10 public holidays (ex Easter Saturday) ie: 30 days per year, plus 3 months after 10 years.
). You could also take up to 6 month maternity / 2 weeks paternity - fully paid. (I think they even extended the 6 month to 12 months, but only 1/2 pay after 6).When I worked for the council (before that), it was 25 + bank holidays, + an extra 2 after 2 years.
Bonus in Australia though, is I get to drink at work Mon-Fri!! - that seems pretty common here (would have been fired in the UK for that!)
Apr 18th 2010, 11:50 am
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Re: Working hours in Australia
As a matter of interest I wonder what the % of Aussie workforce end up working at the same place for over 10 years, excluding the public sector of course?
Apr 18th 2010, 12:03 pm
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Apr 18th 2010, 12:08 pm
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Apr 18th 2010, 12:17 pm
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Apr 18th 2010, 12:22 pm
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Apr 18th 2010, 12:25 pm
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Re: Working hours in Australia
Yeah I think we all love WORKing here.
I think anyone who moves here and ends up working less hours with more holidays - WELL DONE!!!
For the rest of us, we'll cover for you.
I think anyone who moves here and ends up working less hours with more holidays - WELL DONE!!!
For the rest of us, we'll cover for you.
Apr 18th 2010, 12:29 pm
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Re: Working hours in Australia
I had a flexible benefits package in the UK...we could take maximum 7 weeks leave + public holidays.