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iamthecreaturefromuranus Jan 23rd 2010 11:44 am

Re: Why Australia is Expensive?
 

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 8276389)
There's nothing wrong with Bogans. A Bogan is just someone who is a bit rough around the edges and perhaps lacks certain social airs and graces. A bogan isn't the same as a Chav as some people sometimes say.

That would be me then. !

bcworld Jan 23rd 2010 11:47 am

Re: Why Australia is Expensive?
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 8276418)
That would be me then. !

I think the Bogan has to be a bit of a 'dag' as well. Do you have any alcohol branded clothing? VB hat maybe? A Jim Beam dashboard carpet?

iamthecreaturefromuranus Jan 23rd 2010 11:53 am

Re: Why Australia is Expensive?
 

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 8276421)
I think the Bogan has to be a bit of a 'dag' as well. Do you have any alcohol branded clothing? VB hat maybe? A Jim Beam dashboard carpet?

Ah... I fall down on those counts then. I don't even have a Holden jacket. :)

mono Jan 23rd 2010 12:13 pm

Re: Why Australia is Expensive?
 
A bogan is someone with very little class, education or sophistication. They are the types of Aussies who automatically take it for granted that Australia is the best place on earth. They are the types of Aussies who refer to Brits as ''poms'' incessantly. They like VB, Peter Jackson cigarettes (both in large quantities) and Jim Beam. All of which are gross and not the choices of anyone with any real brain. You will not see them carefully selecting a fine single malt. They drive their utes fast and aggressively and dress badly. They make a point of shaking your hand with the most violent grip possible and employ the expression ''yooos'' all the time. They think AFL is bloody marvellous and the beach is all the culture you could ever need or want. They dress in singlets and shorts constantly and are happy to go bare foot. They are often covered in tattoos.

Pardon me if I don't relate to them.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Jan 23rd 2010 12:27 pm

Re: Why Australia is Expensive?
 

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8276451)
A bogan is someone with very little class, education or sophistication. They are the types of Aussies who automatically take it for granted that Australia is the best place on earth. They are the types of Aussies who refer to Brits as ''poms'' incessantly. They like VB, Peter Jackson cigarettes (both in large quantities) and Jim Beam. All of which are gross and not the choices of anyone with any real brain. You will not see them carefully selecting a fine single malt. They drive their utes fast and aggressively and dress badly. They make a point of shaking your hand with the most violent grip possible and employ the expression ''yooos'' all the time. They think AFL is bloody marvellous and the beach is all the culture you could ever need or want. They dress in singlets and shorts constantly and are happy to go bare foot. They are often covered in tattoos.

Pardon me if I don't relate to them.

Well I went for a night out here a few months back with the girls my wife had been to TAFE with and their partners... http://www.laundy.com.au/albionpark

Albion Park was voted in the top ten Bogan areas of Australia and that pub itself was described as "brutal". http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/n...s/1587309.aspx

I had a bloody great night. :thumbsup:

....my wife just asked me to add that she, who wasn't drinking at all, was scared shitless all night long. !!
Just goes to show what half a dozen Carltons can do for your perceptions of a place. :)

bcworld Jan 23rd 2010 12:34 pm

Re: Why Australia is Expensive?
 

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8276451)
A bogan is someone with very little class, education or sophistication. They are the types of Aussies who automatically take it for granted that Australia is the best place on earth. They are the types of Aussies who refer to Brits as ''poms'' incessantly. They like VB, Peter Jackson cigarettes (both in large quantities) and Jim Beam. All of which are gross and not the choices of anyone with any real brain. You will not see them carefully selecting a fine single malt. They drive their utes fast and aggressively and dress badly. They make a point of shaking your hand with the most violent grip possible and employ the expression ''yooos'' all the time. They think AFL is bloody marvellous and the beach is all the culture you could ever need or want. They dress in singlets and shorts constantly and are happy to go bare foot. They are often covered in tattoos.

Pardon me if I don't relate to them.

OK I missed some criteria! :lol:

But you make it sound like Bogans couldn't be decent people - and I fundamentally disagree with that.

I'm Scottish and I couldn't 'carefully select a single malt'! :D

Amazulu Jan 23rd 2010 12:48 pm

Re: Why Australia is Expensive?
 

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8276451)
A bogan is someone with very little class, education or sophistication. They are the types of Aussies who automatically take it for granted that Australia is the best place on earth. They are the types of Aussies who refer to Brits as ''poms'' incessantly. They like VB, Peter Jackson cigarettes (both in large quantities) and Jim Beam. All of which are gross and not the choices of anyone with any real brain. You will not see them carefully selecting a fine single malt. They drive their utes fast and aggressively and dress badly. They make a point of shaking your hand with the most violent grip possible and employ the expression ''yooos'' all the time. They think AFL is bloody marvellous and the beach is all the culture you could ever need or want. They dress in singlets and shorts constantly and are happy to go bare foot. They are often covered in tattoos.

Some of them are still nice people. Some people with so called 'sophistication' can be horrible.

The Crow Jan 23rd 2010 2:00 pm

Re: Why Australia is Expensive?
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8276521)
Some of them are still nice people. Some people with so called 'sophistication' can be horrible.

Agree completely - I feel fortunate that I have friends from all walks of life - none are excluded based on what they wear/drink etc. Although some may not bring with them deep conversation and sophistication, they may bring kindness, happiness and humour :thumbup:

mpgrewal Jan 23rd 2010 2:57 pm

Re: Why Australia is Expensive?
 

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8276451)
A bogan is someone with very little class, education or sophistication. They are the types of Aussies who automatically take it for granted that Australia is the best place on earth. They are the types of Aussies who refer to Brits as ''poms'' incessantly. They like VB, Peter Jackson cigarettes (both in large quantities) and Jim Beam. All of which are gross and not the choices of anyone with any real brain. You will not see them carefully selecting a fine single malt. They drive their utes fast and aggressively and dress badly. They make a point of shaking your hand with the most violent grip possible and employ the expression ''yooos'' all the time. They think AFL is bloody marvellous and the beach is all the culture you could ever need or want. They dress in singlets and shorts constantly and are happy to go bare foot. They are often covered in tattoos.

Pardon me if I don't relate to them.

Great description. Now I understand what a bogan is :thumbsup:

mohogony Jan 23rd 2010 3:38 pm

Re: Why Australia is Expensive?
 

Originally Posted by mpgrewal (Post 8276672)
Great description. Now I understand what a bogan is :thumbsup:

in America they are called Trailer Trash.

The Crow Jan 23rd 2010 3:42 pm

Re: Why Australia is Expensive?
 

Originally Posted by mohogony (Post 8276696)
in America they are called Trailer Trash.

I don't see Bogans as trailer trash at all, as many are successful self-employed and mortgage free. I would liken ferals to trailer trash.

Very Happy Jan 23rd 2010 3:53 pm

Re: Why Australia is Expensive?
 
mono you ever been to the U.K? it's like you just described but far, far worse.

swans Jan 23rd 2010 4:51 pm

Re: Why Australia is Expensive?
 

Originally Posted by steve`o (Post 8260345)
its nothing to do with subsidies and all to do with the fact that only two companies control 80% of the supermarkets so they charge whatever the market will stand, farmers here get paid less than a sixth of what these big two sell the produce for:ohmy: so forget level playing feilds etc its all a myth

if you want cheap veggies, cheese or fruit go to your local growers or farmers markets ;)

for example if your local to me ( goldcoast qld )
http://www.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/t_st....aspx?PID=7332

regards steve

Popular opinion is no substitute for thinking.Repeating this nonsense is not going to make reality disappear.the two big companies operate on small margins.Economies of scale is the opposite to competition

With less than one second of thinking it is possible to work out that $1 per week from the whole population will produce a profit of $1 billion per year approx (22 million x$1 x52 weeks).A further 1 second will produce that Woolworths sell to approx 40% of the population (your figures).thus they get slightly less than $3 per week to make a profit of $1 bill.

Reality is they turn over a touch less than $50 bill per year,net profit is $1.85 bill,this is a touch under 4%.

Should you feel you can do it cheaper than this then open up.you are cheaper,everybody shops at your place and we are all exactly in the same position as we are now.You have a large momopoly and a large profit simply because you can get a $ or2 from every body every week.

A company makes a good profit do we

A) buy shares in this company,settle back, and get our share of these profits in the form of dividends every year.

B) sPEND A LIFETIME COMPLAINING BECAUSE THEY MAKE A PROFIT AND CREATE EMPLOYMENT.

C)carry on with the illusion of huge profits and then create a new illusion,never buy shares in these companies because it is too risky.

Geordie downunder

ABCDiamond Jan 23rd 2010 6:50 pm

Re: Why Australia is Expensive?
 

Originally Posted by mono (Post 8276451)
A bogan is someone with

Who defines what a bogan is ?


Generally the bogan fits a particular stereotypical image. The perception of what actually constitutes a bogan has been shaped over the years primarily by the media; notable especially are television programs such as Channel 7's Today Tonight and Channel 9's A Current Affair .
Oh, I see.... Today Tonight and A Current Affair :lol:

Dreamy Jan 23rd 2010 6:51 pm

Re: Why Australia is Expensive?
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8276868)
Who defines what a bogan is ?



Oh, I see.... Today Tonight and A Current Affair :lol:

They probably made the description after careful consideration of their target audience


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