katsmajic

yep koh is till in uk - working on airbus bits....
he has civil and military aerospace clearance here and has his own 'stamp'
he has been contacted independantly about working in oz - specifically on military projects so were hoping that it will mean he can work for this kind of company without having citizenship...
if not he will just have to look for regular toolmaker/cnc work, seems to be a fair bit of it in adelaide so fingers crossed...

otherwise hes going to send me out to work!

bcworld

I haven't been posting here long, I came to BE looking for info on a particular visa situation and happened to read through a few other posts, made a few comments and now I guess I'm probably one of those people you talk about above as I've 'spat out' the odd stat here and there.

To set the record straight...i like Australia, I have a good life in Australia....i work less hours...get paid the same...the money goes further and I have a great house I could never get in the UK. At the same time I don't have any real attachment to the place...I feel it lacks something (*prepares to be flamed and get the usual barrage of 'go home then' comments*).

I dont mind anyone criticising the UK vs Australia if there is some basis in fact (e.g. my car gets broken into more in the UK) or if we're talking about something where individual opinion is most important (e.g. Australian TV is better , sorry that was a ridiculous example) - but if someone is giving a reason for migrating of something that is actually worse in Australia why shouldn't you point that out to them - maybe that person is making a mistake!?

Hutch

Nope. Wasn't referring to you.

Don't know why you'd get flamed for saying that. Everyone's different, has different expectations, different attitudes ... different everything. To get flamed for saying you think Oz 'lacks something' would be like me slagging you off because you like the colour orange, but think that blue rocks.

No problem with it per se, it's the macros that some people on this site spit out any time a comparison is drawn between the UK and Oz. The problem is that most things are arbitrary. You think the TV sucks, but others (CSI fanatics, for instance) might think it's great. Others talk about crime - the biggest crime in this town last month was the theft of two outboard motors. Others talk about hoons doing doughnuts in V8s - I have yet to witness this in a year living here and many visits prior to that. Others say there's no choice in the supermarkets, I scratch my head and stare at the 50 different varieties of loaves in my local Coles. Others say they find Australians unwelcoming - I've found the exact opposite. The bottom line is that there are very few things that you can categorically state about living in this country ... and that's my problem with the whole, "If you think it's bad in the UK ... " style of post. [Edited to add:] Of course, the "UK's over-run with immigrants and I can't wait to get to Oz ..." style posts are no better.

ktyler1961

Maybe. But I found out anyway on the internet and by contacting a mate back home.
Parts are made in 40 different countries around the world including Oz.

martynm

Hi Mark,

If you recall we spoke (wrote ?) a wee while ago as we're in similar fields.


How are things going in Perth ? We've just validated on a recce trip to brisbane. It was awesome !

rabsody

[QUOTE=Katsmajics other half !!!;4977843]i personally feel the UK is going nowhere........i am a toolmaker and the impression i get from manufacturing is that it is dying on its feet.........the company i work for has started sending work into China as its soo much cheaper to make it over there.
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Oh my god, wait til you get to Australia ... everything is made in China!!!

Grayling

You had better make sure that you are able to get security clearance before you make too many plans if you are planning to rely on defence work.

Other people on this site have found that citizenship is required.

Security clearance in the UK will count for very little in Australia.....be careful.

G

tequila

Believe me.... the World and it's mother are all manufacturing in China. As someone who has to visit the country every month or so, I can tell you everyone is there. Footwear manufacturers, electronics, metalwork, car parts even cars.... everything and every huge name..... they may still say made in the UK, USA, Aus or wherever, but guarenteed at least 40/50% of the parts are made in China if not all!
They have made China a complete S***hole! The place is smog heaven.

ozzieeagle

"They" have also made it, the country which will very soon overtake the US as the worlds most influential and dominant country.


Back to thread, Another reason that Brits in particular move here, is the feeling of real "Freedom" as to how one lives, Australia possibly gives one more lifestyle choices, either Urban, or Rural, Self Sufficient, or consumerist, all without the social stigma of social class. Not many people mention this, personally it seems to be a valid point.

mr mover

China has one major problem.
The cities are rich , the country side is poor roll on the revolution.......mm

BadgeIsBack

Like Hutch says, most of the rose-tinted remover types are probably a tad miffed about what Australia has personally dealt them. Others are so scared of appearing unbalanced (!) that they will queue up to say much the same.

If you follow Hutch's Rules, and I could have written half of them, you might find what you are looking for. Especially the First and the Last.

BadgeIsBack

Here in SE Melbourne, that list is bang on.

See what I mean, I give you Hutch's No 1 rule....

It's all relative.

BadgeIsBack

Likewise Melbourne, frankly. Most of the inner cities are being bought up slowly by yuppies and those that do will balance out those that don't. It issome of the new estates that will breed crime, if anything.

As for gangland slayings and shootouts - they are still rare.

aussietobe

There are a lot of people on here (particularly in the MBTUK forum) who are unhappy in Australia for a variety of reasons, a lot of it is to do with missing family and friends, feeling like an outsider, career hasnt gone to plan etc. Some people just don't connect or feel an affinity with Australian culture, people and way of life. Emigrating takes a lot of work and effort and an exceptionally positive attitude and not everyone will succeed. Sometimes people are just "British" to their core and there is nothing wrong with that. As a result of their unhappiness and a certain pride and defensivness people feel towards their homeland, they develop an "agenda." That is to promote the positives of the UK and exaggerate the negatives of Australia or convince themselves of certain things. For one thing there is no way near the amount of violent crime in Australia as there is the UK. I don't hear of teenagers being stabbed and shot in Perth homes and streets. Some people have suggested that it is almost as crowded in Australia as it is in the UK. How can this be? perth for example has a similar land area to Greater London and yet has only 20 per cent of the population. The UK is renowned for its no-go zones. Same as the US. There is not a single no-go zone area in Perth for me. There is a lot of space and less crime here - that is a fact in my opinion. There is great weather and an outdoor lifestyle - this suits me and my family. The UK has other facets to it that are positive that Oz doesnt, like promixity to Europe. I have seen Europe and to be honest I find Asia more interesting, and better for a two week break each year, but that's me. Other people are different.

Australia is a great country and you may well love it. You can always go home and have had a great adventure in the meantime - after all a very small percentage of people ever get the chance to live abroad.

aussietobe

Just wondering how Australia has to grow up?? become more politically correct maybe (heaven forbid??)