What is your experience of this?
Apr 4th 2006 | 5:05 am
#31
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Re: What is your experience of this?
Originally Posted by Grayling
Vash probaly knows that.
I bet he was going to have a go at you about your spelling or grammar.
....to try and make a point about the English education system.
G
....to try and make a point about the English education system.
G
Apr 4th 2006 | 5:20 am
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Re: What is your experience of this?
Originally Posted by WendyC
Well I was taught in a UK school and there is nothing wrong with my grammar and spelling so that argument would not be a good one. Everyone is different and has diferent talents. My hubby has really bad spelling and grammar, but is excellent at maths etc.
I really don't think that Vash would stoop to that level to get a point across.
I really don't think that Vash would stoop to that level to get a point across.
I do find the frequent belittling of the Australian education system somewhat tiresome, but there's really no point in responding at the same level.
For the record, I received a 100% Australian education and have never been disadvantaged by it since coming to the UK.
In fact, I have just secured a position in which I am paid more than several people who have been with the company for at least three years.
Apr 4th 2006 | 7:00 am
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Re: What is your experience of this?
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
For the record, I received a 100% Australian education and have never been disadvantaged by it since coming to the UK.
In fact, I have just secured a position in which I am paid more than several people who have been with the company for at least three years.
In fact, I have just secured a position in which I am paid more than several people who have been with the company for at least three years.
Seriosuly, congratulations on the new position.
My parents are retired secondary school teachers. I've heard enough from them over the years to appreciate that the UK education system has plenty of flaws, and, in their opinion, much has changed for the worse - the system, standards of teaching/teachers, change in attitudes of pupils, etc. Can't comment from a parenting point of view, and wouldn't use it as a reason to leave UK, but acknowledge that it's nowhere near perfect.
Apr 4th 2006 | 7:36 am
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Re: What is your experience of this?
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
Thanks Wendy.
I do find the frequent belittling of the Australian education system somewhat tiresome, but there's really no point in responding at the same level.
For the record, I received a 100% Australian education and have never been disadvantaged by it since coming to the UK.
In fact, I have just secured a position in which I am paid more than several people who have been with the company for at least three years.
I do find the frequent belittling of the Australian education system somewhat tiresome, but there's really no point in responding at the same level.
For the record, I received a 100% Australian education and have never been disadvantaged by it since coming to the UK.
In fact, I have just secured a position in which I am paid more than several people who have been with the company for at least three years.
Like I said earlier Vash, it's more to do with the individual than the education system. What I didn't say earlier is that I hardly every attended school from being 8 years old
My Mum would let me stay off so I never went.Since I left school at the age of 15 with no qualifications at all, I have had two managerial positions. the only difference being that instead of getting the job through skills on paper I have had to work my ass off to prove that I can do the job better than anyone else.
Apr 4th 2006 | 8:24 am
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Re: What is your experience of this?
The reason the australian system is being discussed on the moving back forum it IS relevant to you and your children if they have spent a couple of years in the australian system and are now going back.
Most people who have done this have reported back the children were way behind and experienced difficulty catching up, stressful for the child even if you dont look at the other implications of that.
I dont find the discussions on the moving back forum (its not just people from australia anyway) threatening, quite the opposite the conversations have a depth from the wisdom of actually having lived in 2 countries for a significant length of time, as opposed to the sometimes futile conversations with a long term expat and somebody who has never even vistited the country in question.
Its a more frank/honest/open forum, because people are not threatening anybodies "dream" perception of a place, most people on that fourm are well aware of the good and bad sides of both countries.
For people in the pre immigration stage its an essential read, as long as you can accept the people on it have been there and done it, so it might be more brass tacks than some forums.
Most people who have done this have reported back the children were way behind and experienced difficulty catching up, stressful for the child even if you dont look at the other implications of that.
I dont find the discussions on the moving back forum (its not just people from australia anyway) threatening, quite the opposite the conversations have a depth from the wisdom of actually having lived in 2 countries for a significant length of time, as opposed to the sometimes futile conversations with a long term expat and somebody who has never even vistited the country in question.
Its a more frank/honest/open forum, because people are not threatening anybodies "dream" perception of a place, most people on that fourm are well aware of the good and bad sides of both countries.
For people in the pre immigration stage its an essential read, as long as you can accept the people on it have been there and done it, so it might be more brass tacks than some forums.
Apr 4th 2006 | 10:11 am
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Re: What is your experience of this?
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
What experience have you had with the Australian education system?
Last edited by sassenach; Apr 4th 2006 at 10:18 am.
Apr 4th 2006 | 2:38 pm
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Re: What is your experience of this?
Originally Posted by sassenach
both my children have been educated in the aussie system .
Apr 4th 2006 | 3:42 pm
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Re: What is your experience of this?
Originally Posted by jad n rich
Hell man! what makes you think that gives you enough reason to comment on it
Apr 4th 2006 | 4:30 pm
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Re: What is your experience of this?
Originally Posted by mish & al
This could be a long one!!
I was educated in both Perth & Greater Manchester and my experiences in both education systems is one of the main reasons I'm returning to Perth.
We moved to Perth when i was 8 and i bloody loved my school.
I experienced no problems at all, i was accepted by my peers immediately and I'm still in touch with many of my friends there even though i left 12 years ago. Academically i can not fault the education i received there and the support and acceptance all pupils received was great. We were encouraged to excel in every aspect, including: physically in various sports, musically and artistically!!
I returned to the UK when i was 12 and i experienced the biggest culture shock of my life... aaarggghhhh!! Immediately i had to have the right clothes, material objects, etc and without these i would have been bullied, fortunately i had a very fast mouth (and a big bro & a big sis) that got me out of all types of scrapes!!
Everyone i knew back in the UK were trying smoking/drinking and and the amount that they swore was beyond belief!! All i wanted to do was ride my bike and play netball...i suddenly had nothing in common with my friends.
I tried the smoking and the drinking (yes, at 12) as most kids probably do, but i would have been much happier with my mates in Oz exploring the lake.
The schooling here was also good and to put your minds at rest, i returned to all of the top sets in secondary school here, went to college and graduated with a 2.1 @ university. I can honestly say i never found the work difficult after an Australian education (oops, apart from History, but that's understandable)!!
Although my point doesn't fall too heavy on the education side of things, the social side played a huge part in my decision for going back.
I'll be starting a family soon and i want my children to have the same opportunities i had without the niggling concerns of what their peers will think and how they will judge them. I appreciate that this is only my experience and had i continued my education in Perth, cigs, drink and drugs could have occurred later, as I'm sure it would have - but a delay would have been nice!!
After all, children are blank canvasses and if they are encouraged and supported to excel in the areas of their own interest they will do well.
And if they inherit my fast mouth, they'll be 'reet'!!
I was educated in both Perth & Greater Manchester and my experiences in both education systems is one of the main reasons I'm returning to Perth.
We moved to Perth when i was 8 and i bloody loved my school.
I experienced no problems at all, i was accepted by my peers immediately and I'm still in touch with many of my friends there even though i left 12 years ago. Academically i can not fault the education i received there and the support and acceptance all pupils received was great. We were encouraged to excel in every aspect, including: physically in various sports, musically and artistically!!
I returned to the UK when i was 12 and i experienced the biggest culture shock of my life... aaarggghhhh!!
Immediately i had to have the right clothes, material objects, etc and without these i would have been bullied, fortunately i had a very fast mouth (and a big bro & a big sis) that got me out of all types of scrapes!!Everyone i knew back in the UK were trying smoking/drinking and and the amount that they swore was beyond belief!! All i wanted to do was ride my bike and play netball...i suddenly had nothing in common with my friends.
I tried the smoking and the drinking (yes, at 12) as most kids probably do, but i would have been much happier with my mates in Oz exploring the lake.
The schooling here was also good and to put your minds at rest, i returned to all of the top sets in secondary school here, went to college and graduated with a 2.1 @ university. I can honestly say i never found the work difficult after an Australian education (oops, apart from History, but that's understandable)!!
Although my point doesn't fall too heavy on the education side of things, the social side played a huge part in my decision for going back.
I'll be starting a family soon and i want my children to have the same opportunities i had without the niggling concerns of what their peers will think and how they will judge them. I appreciate that this is only my experience and had i continued my education in Perth, cigs, drink and drugs could have occurred later, as I'm sure it would have - but a delay would have been nice!!
After all, children are blank canvasses and if they are encouraged and supported to excel in the areas of their own interest they will do well.
And if they inherit my fast mouth, they'll be 'reet'!!
This is a great post - can't believe others din't pick up on it.
This has great resonance for me having had experience from the teaching end of both systems.
Especially liked your point about the "fitting in" aspect of UK schools.
Apr 4th 2006 | 9:31 pm
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Re: What is your experience of this?
Originally Posted by NKSK version 2
This is a great post - can't believe others din't pick up on it.
This has great resonance for me having had experience from the teaching end of both systems.
Especially liked your point about the "fitting in" aspect of UK schools.
This has great resonance for me having had experience from the teaching end of both systems.
Especially liked your point about the "fitting in" aspect of UK schools.
