View Poll Results: Why move to oz, whats ur reason ?
Childrens future
15
23.44%
Beaches/sun
4
6.25%
Standard of living
18
28.13%
Need a fresh start
12
18.75%
Hell why not !
13
20.31%
Flora and Fauna
2
3.13%
Voters: 64. You may not vote on this poll
What attracts u to oz/nz??
Jan 22nd 2004, 9:08 pm
#61
(Jon) returning to NZ 04
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Originally posted by anglophile
Only the educated Kiwi or Ozzie will have those opportunities. The AVERAGE wage in NZ is less then $20,000 per year. To travel to Australia will cost you $500 and the rest. The average Kiwi would love to go abroad ie Australia but can't. A family friend took her daughter to England for a wedding. It cost them in the region of $10,000 to stay for 6 weeks. They are still paying for it 2 years later. Tell m the average Kiwi can do this.
Only the educated Kiwi or Ozzie will have those opportunities. The AVERAGE wage in NZ is less then $20,000 per year. To travel to Australia will cost you $500 and the rest. The average Kiwi would love to go abroad ie Australia but can't. A family friend took her daughter to England for a wedding. It cost them in the region of $10,000 to stay for 6 weeks. They are still paying for it 2 years later. Tell m the average Kiwi can do this.
Oversea travel is expensive on the NZ dollar - no doubt about that.
Not true what you say about only the 'educated' aussie or kiwi having those opportunities. if by that you mean to high school level then you are correct. that is all you need, combined with hard work and the right attitude, to make it anywhere in the world you choose.
Jan 22nd 2004, 9:16 pm
#62
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In my book, " Opportunity" = giving yourself the chance.
Life is what you make it and nothing comes by sheer chance or opportunity, you make good luck for yourself and nothing else.
We expect nothing from Oz, except what we have grafted hard for and what we deserve in return for that hard work and forthought.
Sure, yeah, people work hard, people try and peoples perceptions of what is successful are different, but you get nothing for nothing in this world.
I expect a better life for our kids, because we have provided the beginnings of that for them, but Australia won't be the residing factor in that equation.
We see migrating as a reason to take up the reasons we have to live worldwidly (sp?) with our families in Oz, N.Z, Hong Kong etc and to show the kids that there is WAY more to the world than the uk.
The uk's not so bad, especially when you take a look at whats going on globally, it's just that we all want different things.
If you have kids, then the most you can do for them is to let them see that the world doesn't begin and end with John O'Groats and Lands End. Experience can make all the difference to everyones life and enrich it for the better.
Life is what you make it and nothing comes by sheer chance or opportunity, you make good luck for yourself and nothing else.
We expect nothing from Oz, except what we have grafted hard for and what we deserve in return for that hard work and forthought.
Sure, yeah, people work hard, people try and peoples perceptions of what is successful are different, but you get nothing for nothing in this world.
I expect a better life for our kids, because we have provided the beginnings of that for them, but Australia won't be the residing factor in that equation.
We see migrating as a reason to take up the reasons we have to live worldwidly (sp?) with our families in Oz, N.Z, Hong Kong etc and to show the kids that there is WAY more to the world than the uk.
The uk's not so bad, especially when you take a look at whats going on globally, it's just that we all want different things.
If you have kids, then the most you can do for them is to let them see that the world doesn't begin and end with John O'Groats and Lands End. Experience can make all the difference to everyones life and enrich it for the better.
Jan 22nd 2004, 9:17 pm
#63
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Originally posted by jandjuk
not sure where you got your $20000 per year figure from - but (correct me if I'm wrong) I'll think you'll find that's a figure for all NZers aged 16 or over or something, so that is a little misleading. I posted some graphs and figures a while with some more useful figures (which are more than $20K), but can't be arsed to find them right now.
Oversea travel is expensive on the NZ dollar - no doubt about that.
Not true what you say about only the 'educated' aussie or kiwi having those opportunities. if by that you mean to high school level then you are correct. that is all you need, combined with hard work and the right attitude, to make it anywhere in the world you choose.
not sure where you got your $20000 per year figure from - but (correct me if I'm wrong) I'll think you'll find that's a figure for all NZers aged 16 or over or something, so that is a little misleading. I posted some graphs and figures a while with some more useful figures (which are more than $20K), but can't be arsed to find them right now.
Oversea travel is expensive on the NZ dollar - no doubt about that.
Not true what you say about only the 'educated' aussie or kiwi having those opportunities. if by that you mean to high school level then you are correct. that is all you need, combined with hard work and the right attitude, to make it anywhere in the world you choose.
1. Income levels
The median annual income was $18,500 for the year ended 31 March 2001.
People in the Wellington region had the highest median annual income at $22,400.
The Wellington region had the highest portion of people earning an annual income of over $100,000, with 1 in 25 people.
The median income for males was $24,900 – more than $10,000 above that of $14,500 for females.
Males in the 40 to 44-year age group had the highest median income at $35,900.
The highest median income for females was in the 45 to 49-year age group at $22,000.
The $10,001–$15,000 income group was the most common, with 1 in 6 people (395,106).
The $30,001–$40,000 income group had 1 in 8 people (311,598).
Median Income
By Region
2. Income sources
Jan 22nd 2004, 9:19 pm
#64
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Originally posted by jandjuk
not sure where you got your $20000 per year figure from - but (correct me if I'm wrong) I'll think you'll find that's a figure for all NZers aged 16 or over or something, so that is a little misleading. I posted some graphs and figures a while with some more useful figures (which are more than $20K), but can't be arsed to find them right now.
Oversea travel is expensive on the NZ dollar - no doubt about that.
Not true what you say about only the 'educated' aussie or kiwi having those opportunities. if by that you mean to high school level then you are correct. that is all you need, combined with hard work and the right attitude, to make it anywhere in the world you choose.
not sure where you got your $20000 per year figure from - but (correct me if I'm wrong) I'll think you'll find that's a figure for all NZers aged 16 or over or something, so that is a little misleading. I posted some graphs and figures a while with some more useful figures (which are more than $20K), but can't be arsed to find them right now.
Oversea travel is expensive on the NZ dollar - no doubt about that.
Not true what you say about only the 'educated' aussie or kiwi having those opportunities. if by that you mean to high school level then you are correct. that is all you need, combined with hard work and the right attitude, to make it anywhere in the world you choose.
Hubs aunt, uncle, cousins etc have lived in NZ for 35 yrs plus ( most of them born there ).
A visit to the uk once every 5 yrs is the best they can do.
They have a fab life out there and are happy with their lot, but it's true that O.S travel costs and it's not something they can do on a whim.
Jan 22nd 2004, 9:23 pm
#65
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Originally posted by welshboybilly
who mentioned a 14 yr old?
multi........personality poster?
who mentioned a 14 yr old?
multi........personality poster?
I ask that, then you reply so why did you come to OZ?
What are you saying that poster was not You
Jan 22nd 2004, 9:24 pm
#66
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Originally posted by dotty
Huh, YOUR question to me is in the post where I ask about what a 14 year old does in OZ.
I ask that, then you reply so why did you come to OZ?
What are you saying that poster was not You
Huh, YOUR question to me is in the post where I ask about what a 14 year old does in OZ.
I ask that, then you reply so why did you come to OZ?
What are you saying that poster was not You
oh forget it dotty.
Jan 22nd 2004, 9:26 pm
#67
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Originally posted by welshboybilly
oh forget it dotty.
oh forget it dotty.
Jan 22nd 2004, 9:28 pm
#68
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Originally posted by dotty
Admission of your error would have looked better
Admission of your error would have looked better
as i said, forget it.
Jan 22nd 2004, 9:30 pm
#69
(Jon) returning to NZ 04
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 816
well you conveniently left out the bit at the top of that page: "For the census usually resident population count aged 15 years and over." so school kids, uni students, retired people.....
also i think these figures include all part time work, as well as those on benefits etc. I guess as a blanket view of NZ income it is correct, but not particularly useful....
http://www.stats.govt.nz/domino/exte...a+Release?open
also i think these figures include all part time work, as well as those on benefits etc. I guess as a blanket view of NZ income it is correct, but not particularly useful....
http://www.stats.govt.nz/domino/exte...a+Release?open
Originally posted by anglophile
Summary
1. Income levels
The median annual income was $18,500 for the year ended 31 March 2001.
People in the Wellington region had the highest median annual income at $22,400.
The Wellington region had the highest portion of people earning an annual income of over $100,000, with 1 in 25 people.
The median income for males was $24,900 – more than $10,000 above that of $14,500 for females.
Males in the 40 to 44-year age group had the highest median income at $35,900.
The highest median income for females was in the 45 to 49-year age group at $22,000.
The $10,001–$15,000 income group was the most common, with 1 in 6 people (395,106).
The $30,001–$40,000 income group had 1 in 8 people (311,598).
Median Income
By Region
2. Income sources
Summary
1. Income levels
The median annual income was $18,500 for the year ended 31 March 2001.
People in the Wellington region had the highest median annual income at $22,400.
The Wellington region had the highest portion of people earning an annual income of over $100,000, with 1 in 25 people.
The median income for males was $24,900 – more than $10,000 above that of $14,500 for females.
Males in the 40 to 44-year age group had the highest median income at $35,900.
The highest median income for females was in the 45 to 49-year age group at $22,000.
The $10,001–$15,000 income group was the most common, with 1 in 6 people (395,106).
The $30,001–$40,000 income group had 1 in 8 people (311,598).
Median Income
By Region
2. Income sources
Jan 22nd 2004, 9:31 pm
#70
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Originally posted by jandjuk
well you conveniently left out the bit at the top of that page: "For the census usually resident population count aged 15 years and over." so school kids, uni students, retired people.....
also i think these figures include all part time work, as well as those on benefits etc. I guess as a blanket view of NZ income it is correct, but not particularly useful....
http://www.stats.govt.nz/domino/exte...a+Release?open
well you conveniently left out the bit at the top of that page: "For the census usually resident population count aged 15 years and over." so school kids, uni students, retired people.....
also i think these figures include all part time work, as well as those on benefits etc. I guess as a blanket view of NZ income it is correct, but not particularly useful....
http://www.stats.govt.nz/domino/exte...a+Release?open
Jan 22nd 2004, 9:32 pm
#71
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Originally posted by jandjuk
well you conveniently left out the bit at the top of that page: "For the census usually resident population count aged 15 years and over." so school kids, uni students, retired people.....
also i think these figures include all part time work, as well as those on benefits etc. I guess as a blanket view of NZ income it is correct, but not particularly useful....
http://www.stats.govt.nz/domino/exte...a+Release?open
well you conveniently left out the bit at the top of that page: "For the census usually resident population count aged 15 years and over." so school kids, uni students, retired people.....
also i think these figures include all part time work, as well as those on benefits etc. I guess as a blanket view of NZ income it is correct, but not particularly useful....
http://www.stats.govt.nz/domino/exte...a+Release?open
Jan 22nd 2004, 9:33 pm
#72
(Jon) returning to NZ 04
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 816
Originally posted by anglophile
I trust you are not suggesting I would do anything underhand Jon.
I trust you are not suggesting I would do anything underhand Jon.
Jan 22nd 2004, 9:36 pm
#73
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Originally posted by jandjuk
of course I am
of course I am
Jan 22nd 2004, 9:54 pm
#74
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I do also believ you have every opportunity you want it is just up to you and what you make of it. [/QUOTE]
Totally agree with that, life is what YOU make it!
rach
Totally agree with that, life is what YOU make it!
rach
Jan 22nd 2004, 11:48 pm
#75
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Originally posted by renth
Sounds like fun to me!
plus shagging loads of those stunning young Aussie sheilas.
Sounds like fun to me!
plus shagging loads of those stunning young Aussie sheilas.
exactly mate.
also, how about going to Australia because you like Aussies?
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