what is about rugby
Oct 12th 2003, 4:32 am
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what is about rugby
if im honest cant stand the sport
seeing a load of 20 stone plus men going towards each other like exocet missles does nothing for me, (welsh by nature and by genes) so is it a genetic thing or a male female thing
am i alone or are there others
arlene
seeing a load of 20 stone plus men going towards each other like exocet missles does nothing for me, (welsh by nature and by genes) so is it a genetic thing or a male female thing
am i alone or are there others
arlene
Oct 12th 2003, 6:40 am
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Re: what is about rugby
titter. Those forwards aint pretty.
however the values and attitudes it teaches are a lot better than the prima donna selfish money obsessed values that soccer players seem to pick up. Makes it all worthwhile.
Article in a lot of national papers recently about how soccer in the UK is really going down hill.
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however the values and attitudes it teaches are a lot better than the prima donna selfish money obsessed values that soccer players seem to pick up. Makes it all worthwhile.
Article in a lot of national papers recently about how soccer in the UK is really going down hill.
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Oct 12th 2003, 6:50 am
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Re: what is about rugby
Originally posted by arlene
if im honest cant stand the sport
seeing a load of 20 stone plus men going towards each other like exocet missles does nothing for me, (welsh by nature and by genes) so is it a genetic thing or a male female thing
am i alone or are there others
arlene
if im honest cant stand the sport
seeing a load of 20 stone plus men going towards each other like exocet missles does nothing for me, (welsh by nature and by genes) so is it a genetic thing or a male female thing
am i alone or are there others
arlene
myself and a couple of girlfriends lurve to watch rugby - miles better than poofy football!! Its very physical and is a great example of skilled teamwork. !!! My partners niece used to play rugby for the ladies English team, and she's very feminine...hard to imagine her charging about like a bulldog!
Oct 12th 2003, 8:14 am
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Hi Arlene
I would love to say that I agree with badger about the values etc that it teaches but for me a rugby players thighs are far better than those of a whingeing footie player. Its also a far more interesting game and those thighs...
mmmmmmm rugby
Claire
I would love to say that I agree with badger about the values etc that it teaches but for me a rugby players thighs are far better than those of a whingeing footie player. Its also a far more interesting game and those thighs...
mmmmmmm rugby
Claire
Oct 12th 2003, 8:54 am
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Re: what is about rugby
Originally posted by arlene
if im honest cant stand the sport
seeing a load of 20 stone plus men going towards each other like exocet missles does nothing for me, (welsh by nature and by genes) so is it a genetic thing or a male female thing
am i alone or are there others
arlene
if im honest cant stand the sport
seeing a load of 20 stone plus men going towards each other like exocet missles does nothing for me, (welsh by nature and by genes) so is it a genetic thing or a male female thing
am i alone or are there others
arlene
you are not alone, i went to cardiff last night and watched a good game of football, in my opinion far more skillful a sport and the players are athletes as compared to the meatheads that play rugby.
Oct 12th 2003, 8:57 am
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Re: what is about rugby
Originally posted by badgersmount
titter. Those forwards aint pretty.
however the values and attitudes it teaches are a lot better than the prima donna selfish money obsessed values that soccer players seem to pick up. Makes it all worthwhile.
Article in a lot of national papers recently about how soccer in the UK is really going down hill.
badge
titter. Those forwards aint pretty.
however the values and attitudes it teaches are a lot better than the prima donna selfish money obsessed values that soccer players seem to pick up. Makes it all worthwhile.
Article in a lot of national papers recently about how soccer in the UK is really going down hill.
badge
Oct 12th 2003, 9:23 am
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Re: what is about rugby
Originally posted by bondipom
If that money ever went into Rugby the players would become pre madonnas. Will Carling tried and failed to be a pre madonna.
If that money ever went into Rugby the players would become pre madonnas. Will Carling tried and failed to be a pre madonna.
can just see will carling with conical tits in his rugby shirt......!!
sue
Oct 12th 2003, 9:24 am
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Re: what is about rugby
Originally posted by tiredwithtwins
chortle chortle....dont you mean prima donna, bondipom?
can just see will carling with conical tits in his rugby shirt......!!
sue
chortle chortle....dont you mean prima donna, bondipom?
can just see will carling with conical tits in his rugby shirt......!!
sue
lol
Oct 12th 2003, 9:57 am
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Re: what is about rugby
Originally posted by tiredwithtwins
chortle chortle....dont you mean prima donna, bondipom?
can just see will carling with conical tits in his rugby shirt......!!
sue
chortle chortle....dont you mean prima donna, bondipom?
can just see will carling with conical tits in his rugby shirt......!!
sue
His wife that he did the dirty on wasn't that bad.
Oct 12th 2003, 10:24 am
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Re: what is about rugby
there is stacks (ALOT) of skill in soccer, but it is one dimensional.
People don't realise how technical rugby is. For a forward, there are stacks of rules, the ability to get possession of a ball, and ruck and maul effectively under pressure is more difficult than you imagine etc - if it was a meathead game then big men from Georgia would not allow big men from England to run away with a 80 point goal difference- so there is skill somewhere.
For a back there is stacks of kicks to master from hand and foot, lines of running to consider, defensively you have to come up to scratch, from in front, behind etc. And then there is the 45m goal kicking. And ability to spin pass 10 metres.
I've said to my fiancee that an ability to sprint, AND side step off both feet, takes leg strength and evade tackles is like a dance itself with timing etc (she is a dancer by profession and can appreciate the legwork involved). I play myself and I love beating blokes one on one. Just seeing the look on their face when I step aside them is great. And then you have to be able to finish.
I find doing the same thing with a soccer ball slows me down - I want to run like a bloody gazelle not kick something along the ground like some street urchin with a tin can.
Also for all their meatheadedness, rugby players seem to be able to string sentences together and think for themselves and not speak in cliches.
A truly noble game. I only wish I could have been a professional.
People don't realise how technical rugby is. For a forward, there are stacks of rules, the ability to get possession of a ball, and ruck and maul effectively under pressure is more difficult than you imagine etc - if it was a meathead game then big men from Georgia would not allow big men from England to run away with a 80 point goal difference- so there is skill somewhere.
For a back there is stacks of kicks to master from hand and foot, lines of running to consider, defensively you have to come up to scratch, from in front, behind etc. And then there is the 45m goal kicking. And ability to spin pass 10 metres.
I've said to my fiancee that an ability to sprint, AND side step off both feet, takes leg strength and evade tackles is like a dance itself with timing etc (she is a dancer by profession and can appreciate the legwork involved). I play myself and I love beating blokes one on one. Just seeing the look on their face when I step aside them is great. And then you have to be able to finish.
I find doing the same thing with a soccer ball slows me down - I want to run like a bloody gazelle not kick something along the ground like some street urchin with a tin can.
Also for all their meatheadedness, rugby players seem to be able to string sentences together and think for themselves and not speak in cliches.
A truly noble game. I only wish I could have been a professional.
Oct 12th 2003, 10:34 am
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Re: what is about rugby
Originally posted by badgersmount
there is stacks (ALOT) of skill in soccer, but it is one dimensional.
People don't realise how technical rugby is. For a forward, there are stacks of rules, the ability to get possession of a ball, and ruck and maul effectively under pressure is more difficult than you imagine etc - if it was a meathead game then big men from Georgia would not allow big men from England to run away with a 80 point goal difference- so there is skill somewhere.
For a back there is stacks of kicks to master from hand and foot, lines of running to consider, defensively you have to come up to scratch, from in front, behind etc. And then there is the 45m goal kicking. And ability to spin pass 10 metres.
I've said to my fiancee that an ability to sprint, AND side step off both feet, takes leg strength and evade tackles is like a dance itself with timing etc (she is a dancer by profession and can appreciate the legwork involved). I play myself and I love beating blokes one on one. Just seeing the look on their face when I step aside them is great. And then you have to be able to finish.
I find doing the same thing with a soccer ball slows me down - I want to run like a bloody gazelle not kick something along the ground like some street urchin with a tin can.
Also for all their meatheadedness, rugby players seem to be able to string sentences together and think for themselves and not speak in cliches.
A truly noble game. I only wish I could have been a professional.
there is stacks (ALOT) of skill in soccer, but it is one dimensional.
People don't realise how technical rugby is. For a forward, there are stacks of rules, the ability to get possession of a ball, and ruck and maul effectively under pressure is more difficult than you imagine etc - if it was a meathead game then big men from Georgia would not allow big men from England to run away with a 80 point goal difference- so there is skill somewhere.
For a back there is stacks of kicks to master from hand and foot, lines of running to consider, defensively you have to come up to scratch, from in front, behind etc. And then there is the 45m goal kicking. And ability to spin pass 10 metres.
I've said to my fiancee that an ability to sprint, AND side step off both feet, takes leg strength and evade tackles is like a dance itself with timing etc (she is a dancer by profession and can appreciate the legwork involved). I play myself and I love beating blokes one on one. Just seeing the look on their face when I step aside them is great. And then you have to be able to finish.
I find doing the same thing with a soccer ball slows me down - I want to run like a bloody gazelle not kick something along the ground like some street urchin with a tin can.
Also for all their meatheadedness, rugby players seem to be able to string sentences together and think for themselves and not speak in cliches.
A truly noble game. I only wish I could have been a professional.
Oct 12th 2003, 9:48 pm
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Re: what is about rugby
Originally posted by welshboybilly
what you say about rugby is probably true at the very top level ....
what you say about rugby is probably true at the very top level ....
You can't get much higher profile than national captain, so, how many bans has Martin Johnson had for violent conduct in the 'truly noble game'?
Or, if it's not fair to pick on him (good ol' Jonno's an inspirational leader, remember), should we take another England captain. Lawrence Dallaglio, for example - what did he think was 'cool'? To 'boast' that he took cocaine - later admitted he didn't even take it. Makes it all the worst as Dallaglio has the inherent advantage of being rugby player (i.e. being 'able to string sentences together and think for themselves').
Compare Jonno's violent conduct (2 separate incidents got him a 35 day ban and a 3 week ban), to the worst example of petulence in recent years by an English footballer, perhaps Beckham's flick at an Argentian in the World Cup 1998. Remember the media reaction to both incidents (I can't personally remember too much about the media reaction to Jonno's, but can remember plenty about the reaction to Beckham)
Compare Dallaglio's boasts about drugs to Ferdinand's forgetfulness/stupidity regarding drugs.
Footballers good idols? - some are, some aren't
Rugby players any better? - see answer to previous question
Football - Rugby , different game a different media playing field.
There speaks a football fan and a rugby fan (who has no dillusions of believing the media stereotypes for either game)
Oct 12th 2003, 10:23 pm
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Re: what is about rugby
Originally posted by badgersmount
there is stacks (ALOT) of skill in soccer, but it is one dimensional.
People don't realise how technical rugby is. For a forward, there are stacks of rules, the ability to get possession of a ball, and ruck and maul effectively under pressure is more difficult than you imagine etc - if it was a meathead game then big men from Georgia would not allow big men from England to run away with a 80 point goal difference- so there is skill somewhere.
For a back there is stacks of kicks to master from hand and foot, lines of running to consider, defensively you have to come up to scratch, from in front, behind etc. And then there is the 45m goal kicking. And ability to spin pass 10 metres.
I've said to my fiancee that an ability to sprint, AND side step off both feet, takes leg strength and evade tackles is like a dance itself with timing etc (she is a dancer by profession and can appreciate the legwork involved). I play myself and I love beating blokes one on one. Just seeing the look on their face when I step aside them is great. And then you have to be able to finish.
I find doing the same thing with a soccer ball slows me down - I want to run like a bloody gazelle not kick something along the ground like some street urchin with a tin can.
Also for all their meatheadedness, rugby players seem to be able to string sentences together and think for themselves and not speak in cliches.
A truly noble game. I only wish I could have been a professional.
there is stacks (ALOT) of skill in soccer, but it is one dimensional.
People don't realise how technical rugby is. For a forward, there are stacks of rules, the ability to get possession of a ball, and ruck and maul effectively under pressure is more difficult than you imagine etc - if it was a meathead game then big men from Georgia would not allow big men from England to run away with a 80 point goal difference- so there is skill somewhere.
For a back there is stacks of kicks to master from hand and foot, lines of running to consider, defensively you have to come up to scratch, from in front, behind etc. And then there is the 45m goal kicking. And ability to spin pass 10 metres.
I've said to my fiancee that an ability to sprint, AND side step off both feet, takes leg strength and evade tackles is like a dance itself with timing etc (she is a dancer by profession and can appreciate the legwork involved). I play myself and I love beating blokes one on one. Just seeing the look on their face when I step aside them is great. And then you have to be able to finish.
I find doing the same thing with a soccer ball slows me down - I want to run like a bloody gazelle not kick something along the ground like some street urchin with a tin can.
Also for all their meatheadedness, rugby players seem to be able to string sentences together and think for themselves and not speak in cliches.
A truly noble game. I only wish I could have been a professional.
My partner is rugby obsessed and since arriving in the UK has continued to play rugby league as well as taking up union (which he loves, after an initally confusing few games where he got things totally wrong
). There is no soccer in our house, but we're up at 10.30am every Sunday morning watching the NRL games on Sky. It does take skill -strength, speed, agility, teamwork, stamina (all that mud), it does teach discipline and it has a good social side for the partners/family etc as well as the players.
Wilkinson versus Beckham? No contest in my view
Oct 12th 2003, 10:23 pm
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Re: what is about rugby
Good point but I still think rugby is the more "civilised" sport on and off the pitch.
Dallygo was messing around with the infantile children of the gutter press. Johnno- well he's a forward and they all get aggravated sometimes. Often acts of violence are token retaliations. he hits you - you hit him back. (Just don't get caught ;-)
He's also a very intelligent bloke and V astute - wins all the trivial pursauit comps, is extremely modest.
When Beckham (have you heard the way he speaks - god help us if he even runs for office! all that money and he can't even speak like an adult) missed his penalty, the opposing soccer player shouted in his face - cant remember the last time that happened when Wilko etc missed. See the way Beckham dresses in that Adidas advert - like a gawky "Kevin" teenager. Wilko turns up looking like a sportsman/rugby player.
you do get the occasional brawl in rugby but that could be even be normally punch drunk blokes copping the odd end of a failing fist which may or not be even deliberate at BEST. At worst its 2 blokes who have been slogging away to get the better of each other all match finally losing it.
As for the local boys - they have a good time buts it all high spirits etc. Most are gents after all that playing around. if things get out of hand, one lad will say "come on lads." I've seen soccer fans on the piss actually out to intimidate people in the street, where the rugby player is just having a good time.
The number of times we have turned up with some of our number pissed in off licenses to hear the girls say "oh its ok - we'll serve you - you're rugby players, not football players. One time one said "we don't mind serving you. you're gents." Bloody hell!
Yeah, there is definitely a different culture. I think its great that Australia chooses these codes over soccer. Another reason for going! It says something about the national character of a country.
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Dallygo was messing around with the infantile children of the gutter press. Johnno- well he's a forward and they all get aggravated sometimes. Often acts of violence are token retaliations. he hits you - you hit him back. (Just don't get caught ;-)
He's also a very intelligent bloke and V astute - wins all the trivial pursauit comps, is extremely modest.
When Beckham (have you heard the way he speaks - god help us if he even runs for office! all that money and he can't even speak like an adult) missed his penalty, the opposing soccer player shouted in his face - cant remember the last time that happened when Wilko etc missed. See the way Beckham dresses in that Adidas advert - like a gawky "Kevin" teenager. Wilko turns up looking like a sportsman/rugby player.
you do get the occasional brawl in rugby but that could be even be normally punch drunk blokes copping the odd end of a failing fist which may or not be even deliberate at BEST. At worst its 2 blokes who have been slogging away to get the better of each other all match finally losing it.
As for the local boys - they have a good time buts it all high spirits etc. Most are gents after all that playing around. if things get out of hand, one lad will say "come on lads." I've seen soccer fans on the piss actually out to intimidate people in the street, where the rugby player is just having a good time.
The number of times we have turned up with some of our number pissed in off licenses to hear the girls say "oh its ok - we'll serve you - you're rugby players, not football players. One time one said "we don't mind serving you. you're gents." Bloody hell!
Yeah, there is definitely a different culture. I think its great that Australia chooses these codes over soccer. Another reason for going! It says something about the national character of a country.
badge
Oct 12th 2003, 10:27 pm
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Re: what is about rugby
Originally posted by badgersmount
Yeah, there is definitely a different culture. I think its great that Australia chooses these codes over soccer. Another reason for going! It says something about the national character of a country.
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Yeah, there is definitely a different culture. I think its great that Australia chooses these codes over soccer. Another reason for going! It says something about the national character of a country.
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