Water Issues
Apr 11th 2007, 4:25 am
#46
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Re: Water Issues
The bit that never seems to amaze me is that i live in Cleveland (25k's From Brisbane CBD) and we are on level 2
I can still wash my car with a hose. And fill the pool without water saving devices. And hose the garden every other day.
Also was talking to a counciler the other day that said Redland Council is on level 2 as a token , and does not really need it. We are pouring water into the sea because we have too much. Our water comes from Straddy and it is over flowing at the moment.
I can still wash my car with a hose. And fill the pool without water saving devices. And hose the garden every other day.
Also was talking to a counciler the other day that said Redland Council is on level 2 as a token , and does not really need it. We are pouring water into the sea because we have too much. Our water comes from Straddy and it is over flowing at the moment.
Apr 11th 2007, 4:46 am
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Re: Water Issues
Regarding your second point;
I edited my first post to remove the figures I'd found for water consumption by industry as the website I found them on is no longer functioning. Approximate figures were however that private consumption of the potable supply were only a mere 15% of the actual water supplies the rest a massive 85% were used by industry. That seems to me to be a very high almost inconceivable figure hence my reluctance to post. I'll do some more digging around to see just how accurate the claim is.
I edited my first post to remove the figures I'd found for water consumption by industry as the website I found them on is no longer functioning. Approximate figures were however that private consumption of the potable supply were only a mere 15% of the actual water supplies the rest a massive 85% were used by industry. That seems to me to be a very high almost inconceivable figure hence my reluctance to post. I'll do some more digging around to see just how accurate the claim is.
"Households consume 70 per cent of the region's water". So poles apart from your figures. Sourced from the Courier Mail, that bastion of truthful reporting, but unfortunately, the only paper we've got.
Jane
Apr 11th 2007, 5:17 am
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Re: Water Issues
As an aside to this I've just come back home from downtown and the road is up just short of Mona Vale where part of the carriageway has collapsed downwards... again... This last happened no more than a couple of months ago and again it has burst a water mains which is now happily pumping huge quantities of water out onto the road for 50 metres before it disappears down a storm drain... 
Apr 11th 2007, 5:24 am
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Don't hate me BUT.... We've just paid $30,000 for a pool to be built that was supposed to have been finished ages ago but will finally be finished tomorrow. ( tradies here aren't very reliable). The quandry now is that we will have to buy water to fill it. Does anyone know where we can buy the water?
Apr 11th 2007, 5:34 am
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Ms Nosworthy, the Queensland Water Commissioner seems to think
"Households consume 70 per cent of the region's water". So poles apart from your figures. Sourced from the Courier Mail, that bastion of truthful reporting, but unfortunately, the only paper we've got.
Jane
"Households consume 70 per cent of the region's water". So poles apart from your figures. Sourced from the Courier Mail, that bastion of truthful reporting, but unfortunately, the only paper we've got.
Jane
For the life of me I can't think what kind of industry could possibly use so much water here in Brisbane..............then I thought of Fourex ; it's just like making love in a canoe......................
Apr 11th 2007, 5:37 am
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Don't hate me BUT.... We've just paid $30,000 for a pool to be built that was supposed to have been finished ages ago but will finally be finished tomorrow. ( tradies here aren't very reliable). The quandry now is that we will have to buy water to fill it. Does anyone know where we can buy the water?
Cost expected to be in the region of 4k for the average pool
Apr 11th 2007, 5:39 am
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Don't hate me BUT.... We've just paid $30,000 for a pool to be built that was supposed to have been finished ages ago but will finally be finished tomorrow. ( tradies here aren't very reliable). The quandry now is that we will have to buy water to fill it. Does anyone know where we can buy the water?
Jane
Apr 11th 2007, 5:41 am
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That's a lot closer to the figures I would have guessed at. Much more believable
For the life of me I can't think what kind of industry could possibly use so much water here in Brisbane..............then I thought of Fourex ; it's just like making love in a canoe......................
For the life of me I can't think what kind of industry could possibly use so much water here in Brisbane..............then I thought of Fourex ; it's just like making love in a canoe......................
I work in industry and both water and waste water charges here in SA are ridiculously low. (This is the dryiest state in Oz).
Industry is using huge amounts of water and there is no financial incentives to reduce this.
Apr 11th 2007, 5:43 am
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Re: Water Issues
Don't hate me BUT.... We've just paid $30,000 for a pool to be built that was supposed to have been finished ages ago but will finally be finished tomorrow. ( tradies here aren't very reliable). The quandry now is that we will have to buy water to fill it. Does anyone know where we can buy the water?
Apr 11th 2007, 5:46 am
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That's a lot closer to the figures I would have guessed at. Much more believable
For the life of me I can't think what kind of industry could possibly use so much water here in Brisbane..............then I thought of Fourex ; it's just like making love in a canoe......................
For the life of me I can't think what kind of industry could possibly use so much water here in Brisbane..............then I thought of Fourex ; it's just like making love in a canoe......................
He's also just commissioned another $7m report into whether cloud seeding will work. You can't say he's not trying, he's just left it too late.Jane
Apr 11th 2007, 5:49 am
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Perhaps somebody should explain the theory of pissing in the wind to Pete? as long as he does it over the dams!!! 
Today's Courier Mail has a story about a report commissioned by Mr Beattie which recommends building the worlds biggest desalination plant on Bribie Island. The same Bribie that is currently attracting incomers by stating "85% national park, so you can never be built out!". How happy are they going to be? He's also just commissioned another $7m report into whether cloud seeding will work. You can't say he's not trying, he's just left it too late.
Jane
He's also just commissioned another $7m report into whether cloud seeding will work. You can't say he's not trying, he's just left it too late.Jane
Apr 11th 2007, 5:53 am
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Re: Water Issues
Like Wales.
S
Apr 11th 2007, 6:10 am
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Don't hate me BUT.... We've just paid $30,000 for a pool to be built that was supposed to have been finished ages ago but will finally be finished tomorrow. ( tradies here aren't very reliable). The quandry now is that we will have to buy water to fill it. Does anyone know where we can buy the water?
Apr 11th 2007, 6:19 am
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Re: Water Issues
1. Encourage people to reuse, recycle and save water by increasing grants for water tanks, grey water systems, dual flush converters etc.
2. Incentivise businesses to use water more efficiently
3. Insist that all new homes and bathroom / kitchen renovations install water efficient devices
4. Actually carry out enforcement measures / fines (and maybe publish offenders details in the local papers to shame them?)
5. Lead by example, and install water efficient devices and encourage water saving and reuse in government buildings, schools, hospitals, social housing etc.
6. And the biggie - increase water prices (eg staggered pricing systems so heavy water users pay more).
Along with the Federal government, the state governments should be working together to tackle the issue on a national basis so that areas with water shortages get the water they need, and areas with plenty of water don't get penalised.
I'm in favour of introducing water recyling nationally, improving the storm water drain systems, building dams in areas where the rain falls, but all this will cost money and will Australian taxpayers be prepared to pay extra taxes to pay for all new infrastructure and remedial work on current systems?
2. Incentivise businesses to use water more efficiently
3. Insist that all new homes and bathroom / kitchen renovations install water efficient devices
4. Actually carry out enforcement measures / fines (and maybe publish offenders details in the local papers to shame them?)
5. Lead by example, and install water efficient devices and encourage water saving and reuse in government buildings, schools, hospitals, social housing etc.
6. And the biggie - increase water prices (eg staggered pricing systems so heavy water users pay more).
Along with the Federal government, the state governments should be working together to tackle the issue on a national basis so that areas with water shortages get the water they need, and areas with plenty of water don't get penalised.
I'm in favour of introducing water recyling nationally, improving the storm water drain systems, building dams in areas where the rain falls, but all this will cost money and will Australian taxpayers be prepared to pay extra taxes to pay for all new infrastructure and remedial work on current systems?
I guess some people (not you specifically) wont be happy until the government has authorised the use of the magic wand
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Apr 11th 2007, 6:27 am
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Re: Water Issues
Back when the Gold Coast was in drought, a pipeline was built from Wivenhoe so that the Gold Coast had water. Wouldn't you have thought they would have had the foresight to make it 2 way? Apparantly we're still sending water down your way because of contractual obligations from back then!
Jane
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Just for the record I couldn't see a problem with the Brummies having the water as it was their water authority that built the dam. Welsh Water needed their bums kicked. How can you run short of water in a country so wet and with such a small population.