Visas
Feb 9th 2005, 8:47 pm
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Visas
Hi all Im just wondering I have a fiancee in England and would love for him to join me here in Australia permanently and am wondering which would be the best way a friend told me for him to come on a tourist visa get married and then we apply for a spouse visa...is that a wise way what would be involved if we did it that way and not the fiancee visa? 
Feb 9th 2005, 8:52 pm
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Re: Visas
Originally Posted by robyn01
Hi all Im just wondering I have a fiancee in England and would love for him to join me here in Australia permanently and am wondering which would be the best way a friend told me for him to come on a tourist visa get married and then we apply for a spouse visa...is that a wise way what would be involved if we did it that way and not the fiancee visa?
Hope that helps
Feb 9th 2005, 9:19 pm
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Re: Visas
Prospective Spouse Visa would be the best way - download the Partner Visa booklet from www.immi.gov.au and have a read of it.
DIMIA do not like people entering on the tourist visa and then applying onshore, especially if it means they lied on entry - saying they were here for a visit when in act they intend to stay.
Also, entering on a Prospective Marriage Visa has the big advantage that you can work as soon as you get here! Can make a big difference to money, and to settling in.
If you have a look at the Immigration forum, there is loads of info on there, and several of us can answer your more specific questions too.
DIMIA do not like people entering on the tourist visa and then applying onshore, especially if it means they lied on entry - saying they were here for a visit when in act they intend to stay.
Also, entering on a Prospective Marriage Visa has the big advantage that you can work as soon as you get here! Can make a big difference to money, and to settling in.
If you have a look at the Immigration forum, there is loads of info on there, and several of us can answer your more specific questions too.
Feb 9th 2005, 10:04 pm
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Re: Visas
Originally Posted by Pollyana
Prospective Spouse Visa would be the best way - download the Partner Visa booklet from www.immi.gov.au and have a read of it.
DIMIA do not like people entering on the tourist visa and then applying onshore, especially if it means they lied on entry - saying they were here for a visit when in act they intend to stay.
Also, entering on a Prospective Marriage Visa has the big advantage that you can work as soon as you get here! Can make a big difference to money, and to settling in.
If you have a look at the Immigration forum, there is loads of info on there, and several of us can answer your more specific questions too.
DIMIA do not like people entering on the tourist visa and then applying onshore, especially if it means they lied on entry - saying they were here for a visit when in act they intend to stay.
Also, entering on a Prospective Marriage Visa has the big advantage that you can work as soon as you get here! Can make a big difference to money, and to settling in.
If you have a look at the Immigration forum, there is loads of info on there, and several of us can answer your more specific questions too.
I was reading your answer and got kind of shocked. Is that true that the Immigration doesn't like it when people enter the country on a tourist visa and then apply for another one there?
My situation is: I'm going to apply for Skilled Migration, but I need to go there first to get my TRA (taking the Naati test for Translator) since there are no more Australian agencies that would do this in Brazil. So my plan is to enter the country as a tourist, take the test, pass it
, and then apply for offshore Skilled Independent while I am in Australia. If possible, then, I'd like to stay there waiting for the process to unfold. If not, I'll go to New Zealand and stay there for as long as needed. Do you think I'll run into any problems doing that? Notice that I'm going to file an OFFshore application.Thanks for your help
Cristine
Feb 10th 2005, 12:17 am
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Re: Visas
Originally Posted by Cristine
Hi Pollyana,
I was reading your answer and got kind of shocked. Is that true that the Immigration doesn't like it when people enter the country on a tourist visa and then apply for another one there?
My situation is: I'm going to apply for Skilled Migration, but I need to go there first to get my TRA (taking the Naati test for Translator) since there are no more Australian agencies that would do this in Brazil. So my plan is to enter the country as a tourist, take the test, pass it , and then apply for offshore Skilled Independent while I am in Australia. If possible, then, I'd like to stay there waiting for the process to unfold. If not, I'll go to New Zealand and stay there for as long as needed. Do you think I'll run into any problems doing that? Notice that I'm going to file an OFFshore application.
Thanks for your help
Cristine
I was reading your answer and got kind of shocked. Is that true that the Immigration doesn't like it when people enter the country on a tourist visa and then apply for another one there?
My situation is: I'm going to apply for Skilled Migration, but I need to go there first to get my TRA (taking the Naati test for Translator) since there are no more Australian agencies that would do this in Brazil. So my plan is to enter the country as a tourist, take the test, pass it
, and then apply for offshore Skilled Independent while I am in Australia. If possible, then, I'd like to stay there waiting for the process to unfold. If not, I'll go to New Zealand and stay there for as long as needed. Do you think I'll run into any problems doing that? Notice that I'm going to file an OFFshore application.Thanks for your help
Cristine
With regard to your own position, I can't help at all, as its outside of my area of knowledge! I suggest you re-post on the Immigration forum, or speak to an agent.
Feb 10th 2005, 12:29 am
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Re: Visas
Originally Posted by robyn01
Hi all Im just wondering I have a fiancee in England and would love for him to join me here in Australia permanently and am wondering which would be the best way a friend told me for him to come on a tourist visa get married and then we apply for a spouse visa...is that a wise way what would be involved if we did it that way and not the fiancee visa?
Feb 10th 2005, 3:56 am
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Re: Visas
hi john can i send you a pm please
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Feb 10th 2005, 4:40 am
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Re: Visas
even if you do enter the country on a tourist visa, the skilled migration will probably take around 18 months, so you would be unlikely to be able to stay in oz for that time as a tourist anyway (isn't 12 months the max??). and you'd need a fair bit of cash to stay for 18 months without working!!
Originally Posted by Cristine
Hi Pollyana,
I was reading your answer and got kind of shocked. Is that true that the Immigration doesn't like it when people enter the country on a tourist visa and then apply for another one there?
My situation is: I'm going to apply for Skilled Migration, but I need to go there first to get my TRA (taking the Naati test for Translator) since there are no more Australian agencies that would do this in Brazil. So my plan is to enter the country as a tourist, take the test, pass it , and then apply for offshore Skilled Independent while I am in Australia. If possible, then, I'd like to stay there waiting for the process to unfold. If not, I'll go to New Zealand and stay there for as long as needed. Do you think I'll run into any problems doing that? Notice that I'm going to file an OFFshore application.
Thanks for your help
Cristine
I was reading your answer and got kind of shocked. Is that true that the Immigration doesn't like it when people enter the country on a tourist visa and then apply for another one there?
My situation is: I'm going to apply for Skilled Migration, but I need to go there first to get my TRA (taking the Naati test for Translator) since there are no more Australian agencies that would do this in Brazil. So my plan is to enter the country as a tourist, take the test, pass it
, and then apply for offshore Skilled Independent while I am in Australia. If possible, then, I'd like to stay there waiting for the process to unfold. If not, I'll go to New Zealand and stay there for as long as needed. Do you think I'll run into any problems doing that? Notice that I'm going to file an OFFshore application.Thanks for your help
Cristine
Feb 10th 2005, 9:38 pm
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Re: Visas
Originally Posted by tony440
hi john can i send you a pm please
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Feb 11th 2005, 5:04 pm
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Re: Visas
Originally Posted by brisnick
even if you do enter the country on a tourist visa, the skilled migration will probably take around 18 months, so you would be unlikely to be able to stay in oz for that time as a tourist anyway (isn't 12 months the max??). and you'd need a fair bit of cash to stay for 18 months without working!!
It is pointless thinking in terms of getting to Australia on a tourist visa and trying to change status onshore through general skilled migration.
DIMIA get very upset if people try to live in Australia on tourist status. And if the tourist visa has condition 8503- no further stay it's impossible to lodge either an onshore or offshore application while physically in Australia.
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Feb 11th 2005, 10:43 pm
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Re: Visas
Originally Posted by JAJ
Skilled migration is normally treated as an offshore application, so no bridging visa. Processing times for new applicants are usually less than 12 months.
It is pointless thinking in terms of getting to Australia on a tourist visa and trying to change status onshore through general skilled migration.
DIMIA get very upset if people try to live in Australia on tourist status. And if the tourist visa has condition 8503- no further stay it's impossible to lodge either an onshore or offshore application while physically in Australia.
Jeremy
It is pointless thinking in terms of getting to Australia on a tourist visa and trying to change status onshore through general skilled migration.
DIMIA get very upset if people try to live in Australia on tourist status. And if the tourist visa has condition 8503- no further stay it's impossible to lodge either an onshore or offshore application while physically in Australia.
Jeremy
Hey, Jeremy
As I started researching further on this, I found out that my best option would be a 3-month visa, just enough time to get there, take the test, wait for the result, and then apply.
Thanks for your help,
Cristine
Feb 13th 2005, 6:21 am
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Re: Visas
Originally Posted by Cristine
Hey, Jeremy
As I started researching further on this, I found out that my best option would be a 3-month visa, just enough time to get there, take the test, wait for the result, and then apply.
Thanks for your help,
Cristine
As I started researching further on this, I found out that my best option would be a 3-month visa, just enough time to get there, take the test, wait for the result, and then apply.
Thanks for your help,
Cristine
And even if you can apply the processing will not be done within 3 months so you will have to leave. There will be *no* bridging visa. Whether you will be able to go to New Zealand or not depends on NZ immigration law.
Why are you so keen to apply onshore -why not apply from your home country like other people? You are heading for a big problem if you are not careful.
Jeremy
