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OzSheila Jan 31st 2013 9:52 pm

Re: Unlimited budget Melbourne move
 

Originally Posted by tabascojazz (Post 10518732)
my main question now is whether I need private education for primary school aged children or are the standards good at this level anyway.

Thanks

Pick a decent suburb to live and you won't need private education at primary education. All they need to know by the time they leave primary school is times tables, how to read, write and spell.

I was paying $2500pa per child for primary, Catholic education in Ivanhoe East and quite frankly it was a waste of money. But the sports (read wine) evenings were good fun:lol:

Melbourne is very much run by an old boys network. Hence private schooling at senior school is much more important. Whether it is worth it is another matter;)

HTH

spouse of scouse Jan 31st 2013 10:23 pm

Re: Unlimited budget Melbourne move
 

Originally Posted by tabascojazz (Post 10518732)
Thanks Col, not come across the concept of a troll before. SamSi gave me some good advice: 2 top suburbs in Melb are Brighton and Toorak. Expect to pay $1500pw + for a truly decent place. Start your search there and broaden out to then include Sandringham/Hampton/Black Rock and Beaumauris (these are Bayside) and South Yarra / Armadale/Malvern/Glenris/Kooyong/Hawthorn/Camberwell for the inner East.

This seems adequate info for now and after my first grilling by someone I did actually refine my initial post to be more specific, if you take a look a bit further down page 1. If you have anything else I can learn from it would be appreciated but my main question now is whether I need private education for primary school aged children or are the standards good at this level anyway.

Thanks

If you stay around long enough you'll understand that wasn't a grilling, just a light toasting.

You can take or leave this, but it would be a good idea to remember that members here are just ordinary people like you, sharing experiences, ideas and advice. It's not an executive meeting with you as CEO and you're not paying for advice. Every member who uses their time and effort to try to assist you deserves the courtesy of a response. Let a bit of your personality in, have a bit of a smile and a laugh, and take the responses you get with a sense of genuine appreciation - not so much judging what does and doesn't constitute your idea of 'adequate information' - and you'll probably get a good dialogue going.

haggis supper Jan 31st 2013 10:52 pm

Re: Unlimited budget Melbourne move
 

Originally Posted by tabascojazz (Post 10518732)
Thanks Col, not come across the concept of a troll before. SamSi gave me some good advice: 2 top suburbs in Melb are Brighton and Toorak. Expect to pay $1500pw + for a truly decent place. Start your search there and broaden out to then include Sandringham/Hampton/Black Rock and Beaumauris (these are Bayside) and South Yarra / Armadale/Malvern/Glenris/Kooyong/Hawthorn/Camberwell for the inner East.

This seems adequate info for now and after my first grilling by someone I did actually refine my initial post to be more specific, if you take a look a bit further down page 1. If you have anything else I can learn from it would be appreciated but my main question now is whether I need private education for primary school aged children or are the standards good at this level anyway.

Thanks

It depends on what you expect and what standard of schools you are used to. All primary schools in Bayside will be relatively similar, better (so I'm led to believe) than many others. Some people believe the schools are better than the UK, some believe worse.

Our children benefited from the development of their social skills but by year 4 we found that they were a little bored and not being challenged enough. We were also dismayed at the lack of homework, the quality of homework provided and the lack of reviews of the homework. In the end we paid extra for a tutor and both kids went private in year 5.

My daughter is now in year 7 and she loves it and she's thriving.

Plenty of people choose to let the kids stay at primary until year 7 and then move them private. If money is less of an issue for you then I would suggest private from an earlier age - especially if you ever intend returning home.

Hope that was adequate ;)

tabascojazz Jan 31st 2013 11:17 pm

Re: Unlimited budget Melbourne move
 

Originally Posted by OzSheila (Post 10518777)
Pick a decent suburb to live and you won't need private education at primary education. All they need to know by the time they leave primary school is times tables, how to read, write and spell.

I was paying $2500pa per child for primary, Catholic education in Ivanhoe East and quite frankly it was a waste of money. But the sports (read wine) evenings were good fun:lol:

Melbourne is very much run by an old boys network. Hence private schooling at senior school is much more important. Whether it is worth it is another matter;)

HTH

this is interesting, thanks

tabascojazz Jan 31st 2013 11:18 pm

Re: Unlimited budget Melbourne move
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 10518809)
If you stay around long enough you'll understand that wasn't a grilling, just a light toasting.

You can take or leave this, but it would be a good idea to remember that members here are just ordinary people like you, sharing experiences, ideas and advice. It's not an executive meeting with you as CEO and you're not paying for advice. Every member who uses their time and effort to try to assist you deserves the courtesy of a response. Let a bit of your personality in, have a bit of a smile and a laugh, and take the responses you get with a sense of genuine appreciation - not so much judging what does and doesn't constitute your idea of 'adequate information' - and you'll probably get a good dialogue going.

fair enough apologies. so many replies and opinions I didnt realise each person needed a response. Thanks

tabascojazz Jan 31st 2013 11:19 pm

Re: Unlimited budget Melbourne move
 

Originally Posted by haggis supper (Post 10518849)
It depends on what you expect and what standard of schools you are used to. All primary schools in Bayside will be relatively similar, better (so I'm led to believe) than many others. Some people believe the schools are better than the UK, some believe worse.

Our children benefited from the development of their social skills but by year 4 we found that they were a little bored and not being challenged enough. We were also dismayed at the lack of homework, the quality of homework provided and the lack of reviews of the homework. In the end we paid extra for a tutor and both kids went private in year 5.

My daughter is now in year 7 and she loves it and she's thriving.

Plenty of people choose to let the kids stay at primary until year 7 and then move them private. If money is less of an issue for you then I would suggest private from an earlier age - especially if you ever intend returning home.

Hope that was adequate ;)

Yes, thankyou. I have a good understanding of the city now and hopefully we'll be ok.

eddie007 Jan 31st 2013 11:20 pm

Re: Unlimited budget Melbourne move
 

Originally Posted by tabascojazz (Post 10518887)
fair enough apologies. so many replies and opinions I didnt realise each person needed a response. Thanks

Ok... Sorry... I put the popcorn down....


No one has mentioned Deepdene has it fallen out of favour?

tabascojazz Jan 31st 2013 11:23 pm

Re: Unlimited budget Melbourne move
 

Originally Posted by eddie007 (Post 10518893)
Ok... Sorry... I put the popcorn down....


No one has mentioned Deepdene has it fallen out of favour?

popcorn?

eddie007 Jan 31st 2013 11:36 pm

Re: Unlimited budget Melbourne move
 

Originally Posted by tabascojazz (Post 10518896)
popcorn?

My first... Rather unhelpful.... Post on this thread was the :popcorn: smilie...

Commonly used to indicate you're waiting for the "show" to begin....

Initially you sounded like a bit of a .... Well.... Nuffield said....

Turns out you may be genuine...

bcworld Feb 1st 2013 1:06 am

Re: Unlimited budget Melbourne move
 

Originally Posted by eddie007 (Post 10518893)
Ok... Sorry... I put the popcorn down....


No one has mentioned Deepdene has it fallen out of favour?

Deepdene's only been around 5 mins...not sure anyone even realises it exists!

eddie007 Feb 1st 2013 1:54 am

Re: Unlimited budget Melbourne move
 

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 10519085)
Deepdene's only been around 5 mins...not sure anyone even realises it exists!

Ok... So what's it like then?

The kid is at camberwell grammer? Is that any good?

I'm intrigued....

Hebe Feb 1st 2013 7:23 am

Re: Unlimited budget Melbourne move
 

Originally Posted by eddie007 (Post 10519168)
Ok... So what's it like then?

The kid is at camberwell grammer? Is that any good?

I'm intrigued....

I believe it is a small area that used to form part of Balwyn North (or something like that) having previously been its own suburb. The residents then fought for it to be returned to its former name and it was. A couple of years ago it was the most expensive suburb in Melbourne - this was probably due to is size and limited housing stock - not sure of its 'status' now

Don't know about Camberwell Grammar

Mummy3 Feb 1st 2013 9:07 am

Re: Unlimited budget Melbourne move
 

Originally Posted by Tr1boy (Post 10518665)
Are Catholics not Christian then?:blink:


It's a genuine question btw. I know nothing about religion, except that if we go to Mrs TB's Korean church in Gladesville, I get a free lunch:lol:

Realised when posted how it sounded, yes they are but you can get multi denominational Christian schools, but Catholic schools are purely that.

RedDragon2008 Feb 14th 2013 8:22 pm

Re: Unlimited budget Melbourne move
 

Originally Posted by tabascojazz (Post 10516825)
I have 3 children and my company wants me to move to Melbourne to set up and operation there 2014. Which area has the best schools and the nicest housing to rent for a couple of years. Budget unlimited, family safety priority, preferably state schools. Cheers.

If you can afford it Armadale is very nice;)

asher Feb 14th 2013 11:47 pm

Re: Unlimited budget Melbourne move
 
Williamstown is west and is very pretty with beaches etc and a short commute to the city depending on the side of the city you work. From Williamstown you can go under the bridge and miss the traffic.

you really need to work out where you will be working and look at the areas around there as some commutes are long due to traffic.
If you can find somewhere with trams or a train station nearby that would help.
Port Melbourne is a great place to live too


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